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Grugore
11-14-2018, 01:12 PM
I hear this a lot. Well, let's dig a little deeper and see if this is true.

Joseph Stalin: over 42 million killed
Mao Zedong: over 37 million killed
Adolf Hitler: almost 21 million killed
Chiang Kai-Shek: over 10 million killed
Vladimir Lenin: 4 million killed
Hideki tojo: 4 million killed
Pol Pot: over 2 million killed.

All of these wars were the result of non-religious dictators, with over 100 million people killed. Many of them murdered and not just war casualities.

Any questions?

floridafan
11-14-2018, 01:16 PM
I hear this a lot. Well, let's dig a little deeper and see if this is true.

Joseph Stalin: over 42 million killed
Mao Zedong: over 37 million killed
Adolf Hitler: almost 21 million killed
Chiang Kai-Shek: over 10 million killed
Vladimir Lenin: 4 million killed
Hideki tojo: 4 million killed
Pol Pot: over 2 million killed.

All of these wars were the result of non-religious dictators, with over 100 million people killed. Many of them murdered and not just war casualities.

Any questions?

What religion cause the millions killed under Hitler, Pot, Shek, Zedong?

evince
11-14-2018, 01:27 PM
I hear this a lot. Well, let's dig a little deeper and see if this is true.

Joseph Stalin: over 42 million killed
Mao Zedong: over 37 million killed
Adolf Hitler: almost 21 million killed
Chiang Kai-Shek: over 10 million killed
Vladimir Lenin: 4 million killed
Hideki tojo: 4 million killed
Pol Pot: over 2 million killed.

All of these wars were the result of non-religious dictators, with over 100 million people killed. Many of them murdered and not just war casualities.

Any questions?

they all had religions fool

evince
11-14-2018, 01:30 PM
Joseph Stalin’s Religion and Political Views | The Hollowverse
https://hollowverse.com/joseph-stalin

Joseph Stalin, whose real name was Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili, was born and raised in Gori in what is now the nation of Georgia. He died of a cerebral hemorrhage in 1953. Stalin was raised very religious in the Greek Orthodox Church. He was named after Saint Joseph and was raised to be a priest.

evince
11-14-2018, 01:32 PM
Mao Zedong: A lifetime of Respecting the Buddhist Temple ...
https://buddhistsocialism.weebly.com/mao-zedong-a-lifetime-of...

Translator’s Note: This is an English translation of the original Chinese language text article entitled ‘ 毛泽东与佛教的缘分:一生参拜过的寺院 ’ which implies that the founder of the Chinese Communist state, and leader of the Chinese Communist Party – Mao Zedong – had a lifelong association with the Buddhist establishment of China.

evince
11-14-2018, 01:38 PM
List of Hitler quotes — he was quite the vocal Catholic ...
scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/08/23/list-of-hitler-quotes-he-was-q

Aug 23, 2006 · Hitler was a straight product of German Christianity, he never renounced his Christianity, he never left the Catholic church, he had loyal support of the great majority of German Christians ...

evince
11-14-2018, 01:41 PM
Early life[edit]
Chiang was born in Xikou, a town in Fenghua, Zhejiang, about 30 kilometers (19 mi) west of central Ningbo. His family's ancestral home—a concept important in Chinese society—was Heqiao (和橋鎮), a town in Yixing, Jiangsu, about 38 km (24 mi) southwest of central Wuxi and 10 km (6.2 mi) from the shores of Lake Tai. His father Jiang Zhaocong (蔣肇聰) and mother Wang Caiyu (王采玉) were members of a prosperous family of salt merchants. Chiang lost his father when he was eight, and he wrote of his mother as the "embodiment of Confucian virtues".


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiang_Kai-shek

evince
11-14-2018, 01:47 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin#Early_life


Lenin was born in Simbirsk on 22 April 1870[2] and baptised six days later;[9] as a child, he gained the nickname of "Volodya," a dimunitive of Vladimir.[10] He was one of eight children, having two older siblings, Anna (born 1864) and Alexander (born 1866). They were followed by three more children, Olga (born 1871), Dmitry (born 1874), and Maria (born 1878). Two later siblings died in infancy.[11] Ilya was a devout member of the Russian Orthodox Church and baptised his children into it, although Maria—a Lutheran by upbringing—was largely indifferent to Christianity, a view that influenced her children.[12]

evince
11-14-2018, 01:49 PM
ideki had an education typical of a Japanese youth in the Meiji era.[7] The purpose of the Meiji educational system was to train the boys to be soldiers as adults, and the message was relentlessly drilled into Japanese students that war was the most beautiful thing in the entire world, that the Emperor was a living god and that the greatest honor for a Japanese man was to die for the Emperor.[8]

Truth Detector
11-14-2018, 01:50 PM
I hear this a lot. Well, let's dig a little deeper and see if this is true.

Joseph Stalin: over 42 million killed
Mao Zedong: over 37 million killed
Adolf Hitler: almost 21 million killed
Chiang Kai-Shek: over 10 million killed
Vladimir Lenin: 4 million killed
Hideki tojo: 4 million killed
Pol Pot: over 2 million killed.

All of these wars were the result of non-religious dictators, with over 100 million people killed. Many of them murdered and not just war casualities.

Any questions?

Spot on! No questions here. ;)

Truth Detector
11-14-2018, 01:51 PM
What religion cause the millions killed under Hitler, Pot, Shek, Zedong?

Moron; it was ABSENCE of religion that gives the argument. I do wish you had even a tiny brain.

evince
11-14-2018, 01:52 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot#Childhood:_1925–1941


In the summer of 1935, Sâr went to live with his brother Suong and the latter's wife and child.[17] That year he began an education at a Roman Catholic primary school, the École Miche,[18] with Meak paying the tuition fees.[19] Most of his classmates were the children of French bureaucrats and Catholic Vietnamese.

evince
11-14-2018, 01:54 PM
I hear this a lot. Well, let's dig a little deeper and see if this is true.

Joseph Stalin: over 42 million killed
Mao Zedong: over 37 million killed
Adolf Hitler: almost 21 million killed
Chiang Kai-Shek: over 10 million killed
Vladimir Lenin: 4 million killed
Hideki tojo: 4 million killed
Pol Pot: over 2 million killed.

All of these wars were the result of non-religious dictators, with over 100 million people killed. Many of them murdered and not just war casualities.

Any questions?

they all had religion in their lives


its a long time lie of religions that they were all athiests

Truth Detector
11-14-2018, 01:55 PM
Joseph Stalin’s Religion and Political Views | The Hollowverse
https://hollowverse.com/joseph-stalin

Joseph Stalin, whose real name was Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili, was born and raised in Gori in what is now the nation of Georgia. He died of a cerebral hemorrhage in 1953. Stalin was raised very religious in the Greek Orthodox Church. He was named after Saint Joseph and was raised to be a priest.

Is that why he banned religion you incredibly stupid brain dead twat? Because he was a devout Christian? STFU, seriously.

The process of attempting to stamp out religion began under Lenin, but it accelerated under Stalin. Religious works of literature were banned, and atheism was promoted in schools. Worshippers were harassed, their places of worship closed or even destroyed, and priests and preachers targeted by the secret police.
https://www.toptenz.net/10-brutal-realities-life-stalins-soviet-union.php

floridafan
11-14-2018, 01:59 PM
Moron; it was ABSENCE of religion that gives the argument. I do wish you had even a tiny brain.

You ignore the millions upon millions who have been killed in the name of religion throughout history.

Truth Detector
11-14-2018, 02:07 PM
You ignore the millions upon millions who have been killed in the name of religion throughout history.

Nothing compared to those listed you brain dead dullard on steroids.

:legion:

evince
11-14-2018, 02:18 PM
Is that why he banned religion you incredibly stupid brain dead twat? Because he was a devout Christian? STFU, seriously.

The process of attempting to stamp out religion began under Lenin, but it accelerated under Stalin. Religious works of literature were banned, and atheism was promoted in schools. Worshippers were harassed, their places of worship closed or even destroyed, and priests and preachers targeted by the secret police.
https://www.toptenz.net/10-brutal-realities-life-stalins-soviet-union.php

so he could be their religion


idiot

he was taught religion and it failed him in his mind


so yes religion had an effect on his evil

evince
11-14-2018, 02:19 PM
in the time of man most wars were due to beliefs of the people

which means religions of those people

Lightbringer
11-14-2018, 02:25 PM
I hear this a lot. Well, let's dig a little deeper and see if this is true.

Joseph Stalin: over 42 million killed
Mao Zedong: over 37 million killed
Adolf Hitler: almost 21 million killed
Chiang Kai-Shek: over 10 million killed
Vladimir Lenin: 4 million killed
Hideki tojo: 4 million killed
Pol Pot: over 2 million killed.

All of these wars were the result of non-religious dictators, with over 100 million people killed. Many of them murdered and not just war casualities.

Any questions?

not really, you're a puss.

Grugore
11-14-2018, 02:39 PM
not really, you're a puss.

Childish insults are the result of being unable to refute an argument. I graciously accept your unconditional surrender.

evince
11-14-2018, 02:43 PM
so now you know


all those people you listed were raised with religion


so don't repeat that lie

Lightbringer
11-14-2018, 02:43 PM
Childish insults are the result of being unable to refute an argument. I graciously accept your unconditional surrender.

Ok then let's put it this way, who did what?

Truth Detector
11-14-2018, 02:50 PM
so he could be their religion


idiot

he was taught religion and it failed him in his mind


so yes religion had an effect on his evil

STFU you mentally deficient dumbass. Good lord you give new meaning to the word stupid.

evince
11-14-2018, 02:52 PM
facts fuck you up huh

Boris The Animal
11-14-2018, 02:54 PM
It isn't religion nor the lack thereto, but the total depravity of man and the fact there is zero good in mankind that starts conflict.

Grugore
11-14-2018, 02:57 PM
facts fuck you up huh

You wouldn't know a fact if it slept with you. Not that it would ever cheapen itself enough to do so.

Truth Detector
11-14-2018, 02:57 PM
facts fuck you up huh

You don't deal in facts, you wallow in delusional bullshit and lunatic bloviation. Moron.

Truth Detector
11-14-2018, 02:58 PM
You wouldn't know a fact if it slept with you. Not that it would ever cheapen itself enough to do so.

https://media.giphy.com/media/wWue0rCDOphOE/giphy.gif

Grugore
11-14-2018, 02:59 PM
It isn't religion nor the lack thereto, but the total depravity of man and the fact there is zero good in mankind that starts conflict.

I can go along with that. But I've never seen a major war started by a religion. It's always atheists.

Truth Detector
11-14-2018, 03:01 PM
It isn't religion nor the lack thereto, but the total depravity of man and the fact there is zero good in mankind that starts conflict.

It is only religion that provides a small deterrent to a higher level of human depravity in my opinion. Imagine man without religion. Rome, feeding people to lions for sport. Liberals!

evince
11-14-2018, 03:02 PM
It is only religion that provides a small deterrent to a higher level of human depravity in my opinion. Imagine man without religion. Rome, feeding people to lions for sport. Liberals!

like child rape in the catholic church?

evince
11-14-2018, 03:03 PM
I can go along with that. But I've never seen a major war started by a religion. It's always atheists.

those people were not atheists



I just proved that to you

evince
11-14-2018, 03:04 PM
I hear this a lot. Well, let's dig a little deeper and see if this is true.

Joseph Stalin: over 42 million killed
Mao Zedong: over 37 million killed
Adolf Hitler: almost 21 million killed
Chiang Kai-Shek: over 10 million killed
Vladimir Lenin: 4 million killed
Hideki tojo: 4 million killed
Pol Pot: over 2 million killed.

All of these wars were the result of non-religious dictators, with over 100 million people killed. Many of them murdered and not just war casualities.

Any questions?

your list

evince
11-14-2018, 03:04 PM
Joseph Stalin’s Religion and Political Views | The Hollowverse
https://hollowverse.com/joseph-stalin

Joseph Stalin, whose real name was Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili, was born and raised in Gori in what is now the nation of Georgia. He died of a cerebral hemorrhage in 1953. Stalin was raised very religious in the Greek Orthodox Church. He was named after Saint Joseph and was raised to be a priest.

this

Truth Detector
11-14-2018, 03:05 PM
like child rape in the catholic church?

That isn't something condoned or preached by the Church you willful retard on steroids. You don't impugn an entire religion, police force, Government etc. for the acts of a few lunatics.

That would be like using you as an example of how fucked up and lunatic the human race is. :laugh:

evince
11-14-2018, 03:05 PM
List of Hitler quotes — he was quite the vocal Catholic ...
scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/08/23/list-of-hitler-quotes-he-was-q

Aug 23, 2006 · Hitler was a straight product of German Christianity, he never renounced his Christianity, he never left the Catholic church, he had loyal support of the great majority of German Christians ...

this

evince
11-14-2018, 03:05 PM
Early life[edit]
Chiang was born in Xikou, a town in Fenghua, Zhejiang, about 30 kilometers (19 mi) west of central Ningbo. His family's ancestral home—a concept important in Chinese society—was Heqiao (和橋鎮), a town in Yixing, Jiangsu, about 38 km (24 mi) southwest of central Wuxi and 10 km (6.2 mi) from the shores of Lake Tai. His father Jiang Zhaocong (蔣肇聰) and mother Wang Caiyu (王采玉) were members of a prosperous family of salt merchants. Chiang lost his father when he was eight, and he wrote of his mother as the "embodiment of Confucian virtues".


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiang_Kai-shek

this

evince
11-14-2018, 03:06 PM
ideki had an education typical of a Japanese youth in the Meiji era.[7] The purpose of the Meiji educational system was to train the boys to be soldiers as adults, and the message was relentlessly drilled into Japanese students that war was the most beautiful thing in the entire world, that the Emperor was a living god and that the greatest honor for a Japanese man was to die for the Emperor.[8]

this

evince
11-14-2018, 03:06 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot#Childhood:_1925–1941


In the summer of 1935, Sâr went to live with his brother Suong and the latter's wife and child.[17] That year he began an education at a Roman Catholic primary school, the École Miche,[18] with Meak paying the tuition fees.[19] Most of his classmates were the children of French bureaucrats and Catholic Vietnamese.

this

evince
11-14-2018, 03:07 PM
they all had religion in their lives


its a long time lie of religions that they were all athiests

this

evince
11-14-2018, 03:08 PM
That isn't something condoned or preached by the Church you willful retard on steroids. You don't impugn an entire religion, police force, Government etc. for the acts of a few lunatics.

That would be like using you as an example of how fucked up and lunatic the human race is. :laugh:

the entire church structure knew about it

how did their religion keep them from molesting children?

kudzu
11-14-2018, 03:11 PM
I hear this a lot. Well, let's dig a little deeper and see if this is true.

Joseph Stalin: over 42 million killed
Mao Zedong: over 37 million killed
Adolf Hitler: almost 21 million killed
Chiang Kai-Shek: over 10 million killed
Vladimir Lenin: 4 million killed
Hideki tojo: 4 million killed
Pol Pot: over 2 million killed.

All of these wars were the result of non-religious dictators, with over 100 million people killed. Many of them murdered and not just war casualities.

Any questions?


Religion didn't stop any of those mass murderers,

Grugore
11-14-2018, 03:27 PM
It is only religion that provides a small deterrent to a higher level of human depravity in my opinion. Imagine man without religion. Rome, feeding people to lions for sport. Liberals!

A Godless culture is to be feared more than any thing on Earth. Imagine a car, running towards a cliff, with a stuck gas pedal and no brakes, and the doors welded shut. God is the glue that holds society together.

Truth Detector
11-14-2018, 03:29 PM
the entire church structure knew about it

how did their religion keep them from molesting children?

Lunatic translation:
https://media.giphy.com/media/2gsaWt5alyg8g/giphy.gif

Truth Detector
11-14-2018, 03:29 PM
this


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:legion:

Grugore
11-14-2018, 03:30 PM
the entire church structure knew about it

how did their religion keep them from molesting children?

The Catholic Church is not Christian. It was invented by a Pagan emperor, by combining Christianity and Paganism.

Truth Detector
11-14-2018, 03:31 PM
Religion didn't stop any of those mass murderers,

The point was that because these megalomaniacs were atheists, they occurred you willful moron on steroids. You're as big of a dumbass as DeshTard.

kudzu
11-14-2018, 03:36 PM
The Catholic Church is not Christian. It was invented by a Pagan emperor, by combining Christianity and Paganism.

Where does that leave the Protestants?

kudzu
11-14-2018, 03:38 PM
The point was that because these megalomaniacs were atheists, they occurred you willful moron on steroids. You're as big of a dumbass as DeshTard.

You mean Hitler and Mussolini.. They were religious.

Fentoine Lum
11-14-2018, 03:38 PM
I hear this a lot. Well, let's dig a little deeper and see if this is true.

Joseph Stalin: over 42 million killed
Mao Zedong: over 37 million killed
Adolf Hitler: almost 21 million killed
Chiang Kai-Shek: over 10 million killed
Vladimir Lenin: 4 million killed
Hideki tojo: 4 million killed
Pol Pot: over 2 million killed.

All of these wars were the result of non-religious dictators, with over 100 million people killed. Many of them murdered and not just war casualities.

Any questions?

No, none of that is mutually exclusive to religious based slaughter. Nothing to question other than your ignorance.

Guno צְבִי
11-14-2018, 03:38 PM
I hear this a lot. Well, let's dig a little deeper and see if this is true.

Joseph Stalin: over 42 million killed
Mao Zedong: over 37 million killed
Adolf Hitler: almost 21 million killed
Chiang Kai-Shek: over 10 million killed
Vladimir Lenin: 4 million killed
Hideki tojo: 4 million killed
Pol Pot: over 2 million killed.

All of these wars were the result of non-religious dictators, with over 100 million people killed. Many of them murdered and not just war casualities.

Any questions?

really? stalin was brought up a christer and attended the seminary

Stalin as a Theological Student

https://politicaltheology.com/stalin-as-a-theological-student/

hiltler: To deny the influence of Christianity on Hitler and its role in World War II, means that you must ignore history and forever bar yourself from understanding the source of German anti-Semitism and how the WWII atrocities occurred.

My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

Hitler's anti-Semitism grew out of his Christian education. Christian Austria and Germany in his time took for granted the belief that Jews held an inferior status to Aryan Christians. Jewish hatred did not spring from Hitler, it came from the preaching of Catholic priests and Protestant ministers throughout Germany for hundreds of years. The Protestant leader, Martin Luther, himself, held a livid hatred for Jews and their Jewish religion. In his book, "On the Jews and their Lies," Luther set the standard for Jewish hatred in Protestant Germany up until World War II. Hitler expressed a great admiration for Martin Luther.

And subhuman goyim filth such as yourself are becoming smaller and smaller in the world, good riddance

Fentoine Lum
11-14-2018, 03:39 PM
Where does that leave the Protestants?

Reponsible for the american holocaust and slavery like other christians.

kudzu
11-14-2018, 03:42 PM
Hitler held strong faith in all his convictions. He justified his fight for the German people and against Jews by using Godly and Biblical reasoning. Indeed, one of his most revealing statements makes this quite clear:

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

Although Hitler did not practice religion in a churchly sense, he certainly believed in the Bible's God. Raised as Catholic he went to a monastery school and, interestingly, walked everyday past a stone arch which was carved the monastery's coat of arms which included a swastika. As a young boy, Hitler's most ardent goal was to become a priest. Much of his philosophy came from the Bible, and more influentially, from the Christian Social movement. (The German Christian Social movement, remarkably, resembles the Christian Right movement in America today.)

Many have questioned Hitler's stand on Christianity. Although he fought against certain Catholic priests who opposed him for political reasons, his belief in God and country never left him. Many Christians throughout history have opposed Christian priests for various reasons; this does not necessarily make one against one's own Christian beliefs. Nor did the Vatican's Pope & bishops ever disown him; in fact they blessed him! As evidence to his claimed Christianity, he said:

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders.

How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

https://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler.htm

Guno צְבִי
11-14-2018, 03:44 PM
The point was that because these megalomaniacs were atheists, they occurred you willful moron on steroids. You're as big of a dumbass as DeshTard.

stupid ignorant fucking goyim

Fentoine Lum
11-14-2018, 03:45 PM
The Catholic Church is not Christian. It was invented by a Pagan emperor, by combining Christianity and Paganism.

You fucking "christians" can't even get along with each other, see?

kudzu
11-14-2018, 03:47 PM
stupid ignorant fucking goyim

America suffers from a lack of education ...

Guno צְבִי
11-14-2018, 03:51 PM
The population of Germany in 1933 was around 60 million. Almost all Germans were Christian, belonging either to the Roman Catholic (ca. 20 million members) or the Protestant (ca. 40 million members) churches. The Jewish community in Germany in 1933 was less than 1% of the total population of the country.

How did Christians and their churches in Germany respond to the Nazi regime and its laws, particularly to the persecution of the Jews? The racialized anti-Jewish Nazi ideology converged with antisemitism that was historically widespread throughout Europe at the time and had deep roots in Christian history. For all too many Christians, traditional interpretations of religious scriptures seemed to support these prejudices.

The attitudes and actions of German Catholics and Protestants during the Nazi era were shaped not only by their religious beliefs, but by other factors as well, including: Protestant Churches in Nazi Germany
The largest Protestant church in Germany in the 1930s was the German Evangelical Church, comprised of 28 regional churches or Landeskirchen that included the three major theological traditions that had emerged from the Reformation: Lutheran, Reformed, and United. Most of Germany's 40 million Protestants were members of this church, although there were smaller so-called "free" Protestant churches, such as Methodist and Baptist churches.

Historically the German Evangelical Church viewed itself as one of the pillars of German culture and society, with a theologically grounded tradition of loyalty to the state. During the 1920s, a movement emerged within the German Evangelical Church called the Deutsche Christen, or "German Christians." The "German Christians" embraced many of the nationalistic and racial aspects of Nazi ideology. Once the Nazis came to power, this group sought the creation of a national "Reich Church" and supported a "nazified" version of Christianity.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-german-churches-and-the-nazi-state

Grugore
11-14-2018, 03:58 PM
You fucking "christians" can't even get along with each other, see?

Like I said. Catholicism and Christianity are not the same thing. So there is no disagreement among Christians. Try again.

Grugore
11-14-2018, 04:00 PM
Reponsible for the american holocaust and slavery like other christians.

Excuse me. It was Christians who ENDED slavery. Try again, fool.

christiefan915
11-14-2018, 04:10 PM
A Godless culture is to be feared more than any thing on Earth. Imagine a car, running towards a cliff, with a stuck gas pedal and no brakes, and the doors welded shut. God is the glue that holds society together.

The Crusades lasted almost 200 years, from 1095 to 1291. The initial spark came from Pope Urban II, who urged Christians to recapture the Holy Land (and especially the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem) from Muslim rule. Like the promise of eternal life given to Muslim martyrs, Crusaders were promised absolution from sin and eternal glory. Militarily, the Crusades were at first successful, capturing Jerusalem in 1099, but eventually a disaster; Jersualem fell in 1187. Successive Crusades set far more modest goals, but eventually failed to achieve even them. The last Crusader-ruled city in the Holy Land, Acre, fell in 1291.

Along the way, the Crusaders massacred. To take but one example, the Rhineland Massacres of 1096 are remembered to this day as some of the most horrific examples of anti-Semitic violence prior to the Holocaust. (Why go to the Holy Land to fight nonbelievers, many wondered, when they live right among us?) The Jewish communities of Cologne, Speyer, Worms, and Mainz were decimated. There were more than 5,000 victims. And that was only one example.

Tens of thousands of people (both soldiers and civilians) were killed in the conquest of Jerusalem. The Crusaders themselves suffered; historians estimate that only one in 20 survived to even reach the Holy Land. It is estimated that 1.7 million people died in total.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/was-obama-right-about-the-crusades-and-islamic-extremism-analysis/2015/02/06/3670628a-ae46-11e4-8876-460b1144cbc1_story.html?utm_term=.50dfb5298797

Guno צְבִי
11-14-2018, 04:10 PM
The Protestant churches in Nazi Germany

http://spindleworks.com/library/peet/german.htm


The Top Seven Fateful Verses from the New Testament (1) “Jewish Bloodguilt”

https://jamestabor.com/the-top-seven-fateful-verses-from-the-new-testament-1-jewish-bloodguilt/

christiefan915
11-14-2018, 04:13 PM
The Catholic Church is not Christian. It was invented by a Pagan emperor, by combining Christianity and Paganism.

You are barking mad. The Catholic-Christian religion began in 33 AD.

It's hard to believe that anybody can be so pig-ignorant about Catholicism, given that there are hundreds of legitimate websites that tell you everything you need to know about it.

Legitimate excludes the biased hate sites you rely on for your disinformation.

Lightbringer
11-14-2018, 04:21 PM
You are barking mad. The Catholic-Christian religion began in 33 AD.

It's hard to believe that anybody can be so pig-ignorant about Catholicism, given that there are hundreds of legitimate websites that tell you everything you need to know about it.

Legitimate excludes the biased hate sites you rely on for your disinformation.

Go lick Rana's pussy and leave the adults alone.

christiefan915
11-14-2018, 04:24 PM
Like I said. Catholicism and Christianity are not the same thing. So there is no disagreement among Christians. Try again.

Take this as your motto, Gruesome.


"The ultimate ignorance is the rejection of something you know nothing about and refuse to investigate."

christiefan915
11-14-2018, 04:25 PM
America suffers from a lack of education ...

Bigly...

kudzu
11-14-2018, 04:25 PM
Like I said. Catholicism and Christianity are not the same thing. So there is no disagreement among Christians. Try again.

Sure there are.. There are Greek and Syriac and Russian Orthodox and 1400 Protestant sects.

Guno צְבִי
11-14-2018, 04:27 PM
That isn't something condoned or preached by the Church you willful retard on steroids. You don't impugn an entire religion, police force, Government etc. for the acts of a few lunatics.

That would be like using you as an example of how fucked up and lunatic the human race is. :laugh:

The Red Cross and the Vatican both helped thousands of Nazi war criminals and collaborators to escape after the second world war, according to a book that pulls together evidence from unpublished documents.

The Red Cross has previously acknowledged that its efforts to help refugees were used by Nazis because administrators were overwhelmed, but the research suggests the numbers were much higher than thought.

Gerald Steinacher, a research fellow at Harvard University, was given access to thousands of internal documents in the archives of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). The documents include Red Cross travel documents issued mistakenly to Nazis in the postwar chaos.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/25/nazis-escaped-on-red-cross-documents

bhaktajan
11-14-2018, 04:57 PM
Holy God!

So you freaks are heralding a Bizzaro World that makes Nazi's look like first class engineers.

So all those Prison inmates are there due to religious beliefs?

So all those Chicago shootings are there due to religious beliefs?

Chapo Guzman sold cocaine to finance the building of a Cathedral?

So TV Murder Mysteries are really about religious beliefs?

Now I have seen what a Human Black whole looks like!

So it was "Sex, drugs and Rock n Roll ---and "religious beliefs"?

I wonder if the youngsters posting here have heard of "Sex, drugs and Rock n Roll" ---since Rock n Roll
is a thing of them Old Squares, and taught by professors.

I wonder if the youngsters posting here have heard of "Religion is the Opiate of the People" or "Live by the sword die by the sword"?

"Religion was the a cause of War" refers to the age of Medieval Knights fighting each other.

It may be a banner to herald which team is which, but the generals of each side are looking for security or the wealth of the other.

Lust and Gold cause of such wars and blind and perverted religionists are being used as pawns if required.

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Religion causes war?

I DON'T THINK SO!

This is the dumbest myth.

Gengis Khan, Mao, American Revolution, the American Civil war, WW1, WW2, Korean war, Vietnam war, Po Pots Killing Fields,
Evita Peron and Fidel Castro, Persian Gulf war, Iraq war, Afganistan war, Charles Manson, Jack the ripper, Emperor Hirohito, Al Capone --were not over religious differences.

I wonder if the youngsters posting here have heard?

Even the Islamo-nazis will acknowledge that there own designs on world domination would be
worthless without the land & natural resources that come along with conquering and subjugating masses of other people.

Security, Wealth, Territory and ego engrandisment are the causes of war.

One will NOT witness that wars are fought by religious groups.

If a one sports team kills their competitors and the headline says so ---it is a hidden religious message?

"souls have transcendental rights" ---and if you find your self in a war it's about time you get religious.



material existance in the material temporal universe is a "pastime".

. . . 8,400,000 speices of sentient beings --all doing the same 4 catogorical activities [eat, sleep, mate & defend].

If ones [or millions] are born and live through ['or die during'] Times-of-War --there is the "HUMAN EXPERIENCE" that must be experienced enmass from differing Point-of-Views.

Every man is an Island --one of the herd; one fish in a school of fish --an indivisible-individual conscious soul [One-Ten-thousanth ( 1/10,000 ) the size of the tip of a hair] embued with their own "personal" MOTIVATIONS.

The soul never is devoid of MOTIVATIONS --that is why it seeks life.

BUT,

There are collective/mutual pursuits

that when combined

equate to the requisite reconciliation of Life's Lessons

as to the purpose/the nature of life:

This compunction to leave the comforts of "Eating, sleeping, mating & shelter"

--to enter a State of War = FUNKY KARMA [ugra-karma].

Old Ugra-karma begets fresh ugra-karma.

Mass Ugra-karma begets fresh Mass ugra-karma.

Polished & Shiney Animal Life is
a pastime between karmic reconciliation(s).
Live by the sword die by the Butcher's knife.

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Remember:
Every daily tabloid headlines of heinous atrocious terrifying ghastly murderous shamefull disgracefull deadly act is NOT DONE BY VEGETARIANS!
Learn to live! Know your rights, before you're born to be 'conscripted' to join in the (undesirable) pastimes-of-your-life.