Why on god's green earth would Trump be inclined to invade Venezuela? He has yet to invade anyone.
What exactly is wrong with you? You people are seriously unwell.
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What exactly is wrong with you? You people are seriously unwell.
IBDaMann
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You are off-base on this one.
There is no such hatred except in Maduro. Once he's gone, the hatred is gone.
Venezuelans are looking to visit the US, not attack it.
I bet you were one of those who thought that depriving your brain of oxygen for eight minutes would improve your memory. We can do this all day.
By the way, Afghanis is the currency in Afghanistan. The people of Afghanistan are Afghans.
I just do not believe that we will be welcomed as liberators, especially when trump says the whole purpose is to steal oil from them.
We would be stuck occupying Venezuela until we got tired of doing it and left. That was the thing about the Vietnam War, Iraq War, or any of the other occupations, they are open ended wars.
It would give all Latin Americans, and even other people around the world, to hate us.
Guerilla soldiers, and terrorists love retribution, because it often misses the right target and kills innocent civilians. The more civilians they can get us to kill, the more recruits they get.
But we will have to see, first whether trump is dumb enough to do it, and second whether it fails as badly as I say.
IBDaMann
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What part of "immediate surrender" somehow confuses you? Wait, I know, you have an inability to distinguish surrendering forces from welcoming liberated.
What happened in Iraq?
You've reverted back to lying again.
Isn't that the very definition of invading and imposing our will?
Nope. They tend to be open-ended because we are inept at declaring victory and withdrawing ... however, they very quickly cease to be wars and we quickly become permanent tourists.
It would give Latin America great relief that another socialist bad guy has been ejected from the playing field.
1. Trump is not very likely to invade anyone.
2. We always have to consider the possibility that Maduro might do something to make invasion necessary, and if so, it will be a very quick operation.
Just because the government surrendered does not mean groups among the people will not fight a guerrilla war. That is what happened in Iraq. The Iraq Government surrendered, and then dozens of other groups started a war against the American occupiers.
For the record, I do not know that trump will invade Venezuela, but the stated reason for invading is to get their oil. trump's foreign policy is very transactional, so he would be looking for a profit to make off any war.
We invaded France during WWII. We did not impose our will, and stopped occupying France within a short time.
Having to "impose our will" means we are stuck occupying forever.
IBDaMann
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Just because you used the words "just because" and "doesn't mean" doesn't mean that Venezuelans are going to somehow go to war. Why should any rational adult believe they would?
What happened in Iraq is that all but the imperial guard surrendered immediately, upon being ordered to do so. There was no fighting for the vast majority of the invasion.
Nope. Saddam Hussein and his imperial guard did not surrender, but all else did.
You need to post the video (with time hack) of Trump saying that. Otherwise, I don't believe you.
Trump's foreign policy is extremely effective.
Nope. Trump looks for peace dividend by not engaging in war.
I forgot, was Trump the President back then?
False. Once we impose our will, we can leave at anytime. Like I said, the US is inept at withdrawing. The US typically remains forever out of incompetence, not out of any lack of will.
You know that Trump, not Dubya is president, right?
That's the danger of reusing old hate - you look like an out of touch fool...
What worries me is the alt right, like their neo-con predecessors, think it will all be easy. That is the formula for disaster.
Remember, you do not need that many of them to start a war. Let's say that 0.01% of them do not like being occupied and are willing to do something about it, that is a 3,000 person force, a large terrorist group. The retributions against the terrorist attacks cause 0.1% to join up, and you have 30,000, a large guerilla force. The retribution against the guerilla attacks cause 1% to join up, and you have 300,000, a huge guerilla force, which will make it extremely difficult to keep Venezuela.
I would almost prefer it if Maduro be strong and respected. That way when he surrendered, the occupation would be easier at the begining.
Why would a rational adult believe they would just accept their country being occupied, and their natural resources being stolen?
Remember, you do not need that many of them to start a war. Let's say that 0.01% of them do not like being occupied and are willing to do something about it, that is a 3,000 person force, a large terrorist group. The retributions against the terrorist attacks cause 0.1% to join up, and you have 30,000, a large guerilla force. The retribution against the guerilla attacks cause 1% to join up, and you have 300,000, a huge guerilla force, which will make it extremely difficult to keep Venezuela.
And then we had almost a decade of fighting. Remember Venezuela has perfect terrain to hide in, unlike Iraq, and a people who are prepared for guerilla war, unlike Iraq.
I would almost prefer it if Maduro be strong and respected. That way when he surrendered, the occupation would be easier at the begining.
The second we leave, our will gets ignored.
IBDaMann
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Great news! There is no "alt right." Feel free to celebrate.
You're starting to rave.
If you understood anything about Venezuela, you wouldn't ask what amounts to a rather stupid question.
Let's say that the number is closer to 0.00%
That would still be insignificant before the US military; however imagine a zero-person force. You can see how that makes things much simpler.
There is neither capacity nor the will necessary to oppose invading US forces.
I don't have a dog in the fight; it's not my country. The problem is that the Venezuelan people voted in the very socialism that they are now bringing to the US as they flee Venezuela.
The difference between having 0.01% and 0.00% oppose is convincing more than 99.99% to support a foreign power occupying their country, and stealing their natural resources... That is tough.