My client didn’t do it… But if he did…

Looks like even CNN knows what Brad doesn't

The biggest misconception surrounding the special counsel probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election is that it will likely end in some sort of legal proceeding involving President Donald Trump.

It won't -- for a bunch of reasons, the most important of which is that Robert Mueller, who is running the investigation, doesn't seem to believe a sitting President can be indicted.

The much more likely outcome is that Mueller releases the findings from his investigation sometime this fall — and lets the chips, as they relate to Trump, fall where they may.

Which means — and this is what Trump and Rudy Giuliani have understood for months — that, ultimately, this isn't a legal fight, it's a public relations one.

And in the court of public opinion -- particularly given the fealty that rank-and-file Republicans have shown (and continue to show) to Trump, the comparison is far more favorable to Trump's side.

Quick, do this thought experiment: Name the first 10 words that come to mind when someone says "Mueller probe."

If you are being honest with yourself, my guess is that the words "no collusion," "witch hunt" and maybe even "13 Angry Democrats" made it into that top 10. What that means is that even if you roll your eyes when you hear "no collusion," it seeps into your consciousness — and that's a win for Trump.

Especially when you consider that lots and lots of people aren't rolling their eyes when Trump unleashes a tweet blasting the allegedly partisan bias of Mueller's team or how the whole probe is based on false pretenses.

Remember that a big chunk of people already believe — before Mueller has released a single final finding — that his whole probe is a partisan witch hunt that should never have been started in the first place. Short of Mueller producing an email from Trump saying "Yes, let's collude with Russia ASAP!" those people will not change their view.

That's the secret Trump and Giuliani know -- and have been executing against for months. And like it or not, it's working.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/31/politics/donald-trump-rudy-giuliani/index.html
 
The biggest misconception surrounding the special counsel probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election is that it will likely end in some sort of legal proceeding involving President Donald Trump.

It won't -- for a bunch of reasons, the most important of which is that Robert Mueller, who is running the investigation, doesn't seem to believe a sitting President can be indicted.

The much more likely outcome is that Mueller releases the findings from his investigation sometime this fall — and lets the chips, as they relate to Trump, fall where they may.

Which means — and this is what Trump and Rudy Giuliani have understood for months — that, ultimately, this isn't a legal fight, it's a public relations one.

And in the court of public opinion -- particularly given the fealty that rank-and-file Republicans have shown (and continue to show) to Trump, the comparison is far more favorable to Trump's side.

Quick, do this thought experiment: Name the first 10 words that come to mind when someone says "Mueller probe."

If you are being honest with yourself, my guess is that the words "no collusion," "witch hunt" and maybe even "13 Angry Democrats" made it into that top 10. What that means is that even if you roll your eyes when you hear "no collusion," it seeps into your consciousness — and that's a win for Trump.

Especially when you consider that lots and lots of people aren't rolling their eyes when Trump unleashes a tweet blasting the allegedly partisan bias of Mueller's team or how the whole probe is based on false pretenses.

Remember that a big chunk of people already believe — before Mueller has released a single final finding — that his whole probe is a partisan witch hunt that should never have been started in the first place. Short of Mueller producing an email from Trump saying "Yes, let's collude with Russia ASAP!" those people will not change their view.

That's the secret Trump and Giuliani know -- and have been executing against for months. And like it or not, it's working.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/31/politics/donald-trump-rudy-giuliani/index.html

I agree hundred percent with the writer of this article.
 
Manafort trial is not about collusion, judge said "don't mention Trump campaign"and Manafort lobbied for Ukraine -
not Russia

Mueller's investigation IS about collision and conspiracy.

No collusion, no collusion, there was no collusion, TDS, no collusion, TDS, no collusion, no collusion ... except YES, there was.

How much would you bet that there is something conclusive about Trump's collusion/conspiracy about to break .. and Ghouliani knows it?
 
Mueller's investigation IS about collision and conspiracy.

No collusion, no collusion, there was no collusion, TDS, no collusion, TDS, no collusion, no collusion ... except YES, there was.

How much would you bet that there is something conclusive about Trump's collusion/conspiracy about to break .. and Ghouliani knows it?
it's silly to bet on what we have no idea about. Mueller handed Manafort off to A US atty however
and it's CLEARLY NOT about any collusion.

All indications are there was no Russian collusion -just meddling ( and some of that like the DNC server I still question)

This is not it. that's for sure
 
It takes an asshole like Donald Trump to hire a bunch of assholes as lawyers.

Jesus H. Christ...if this were a book of fiction, no publisher would touch it.
 
it's silly to bet on what we have no idea about. Mueller handed Manafort off to A US atty however
and it's CLEARLY NOT about any collusion.

All indications are there was no Russian collusion -just meddling ( and some of that like the DNC server I still question)

This is not it. that's for sure

:0) Not very good at this, eh?
 
Mueller's investigation IS about collision and conspiracy.

No collusion, no collusion, there was no collusion, TDS, no collusion, TDS, no collusion, no collusion ... except YES, there was.

How much would you bet that there is something conclusive about Trump's collusion/conspiracy about to break .. and Ghouliani knows it?

Every time Giuliani opens his mouth, I am more and more convinced this is what they are preparing for.
 
at what? collusion?
there is absolutely no indication from any source -as I mentioned we don't know all the cards Mueller is holding - but I've seen no stories/leaks/indictments there was.

:0) So you think your side is now floating the 'collusion is not a crime' theory because they don't think there was any collusion???

No collusion, no collusion .. collusion is not so bad? :0) You've got some serious verbal lashings coming your way.
 
Every time Giuliani opens his mouth, I am more and more convinced this is what they are preparing for.

It is what they're preparing for.

Ghouliana has heard the tapes, he's seen some of the evidence that Mueller has. They're firing bullshit in every direction looking for a target.

We're getting closer to the truth.
 
:0) So you think your side is now floating the 'collusion is not a crime' theory because they don't think there was any collusion???

No collusion, no collusion .. collusion is not so bad? :0) You've got some serious verbal lashings coming your way.
collusion isn't a crime because it's not a legal term.
There would have to be a corrupt conspiracy that rose to a criminal level.

However any ties towards working in concert with Russian to manipulate the election would still be a probable impeachable offense ( even if not criminal) if it rose all the way up to Trump.
No indication of either - but that's why "collusion"is used. It's a political term -as is impeachment a political action
 
collusion isn't a crime because it's not a legal term.
There would have to be a corrupt conspiracy that rose to a criminal level.

However any ties towards working in concert with Russian to manipulate the election would still be a probable impeachable offense ( even if not criminal) if it rose all the way up to Trump.
No indication of either - but that's why "collusion"is used. It's a political term -as is impeachment a political action

Collusion is evidence of conspiracy.

Impeachable.
 
collusion isn't a crime because it's not a legal term.
There would have to be a corrupt conspiracy that rose to a criminal level.

However any ties towards working in concert with Russian to manipulate the election would still be a probable impeachable offense ( even if not criminal) if it rose all the way up to Trump.
No indication of either - but that's why "collusion"is used. It's a political term -as is impeachment a political action

So, actions can’t be crimes unless they are defined by a legal term? That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. Is shooting someone in cold blood a legal term?
 
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