It is Veterans Day

[Hawkeye10]

WTF are you babbling about? I am specifically talking about YOU and your penchant to run your mouth as if it's all facts and not just your personal speculations and such. To date, you mostly babble on without being able to factually prove what you profess.

You keep going on about "the West". Where do you come from or currently reside?

And keep in mind that you got your panties in a bunch because I pointed out how you parrot rhetoric similar to that of the late Lyndon LaRouche (another wealthy idealist with delusions of authority).

I am not a God....I am thus not always right.....but I say what I see and I see better than most.

As for what you think is proven that is entirely your problem.

 

[Tbird19482]

Partially true, but incomplete and somewhat misleading in its details—it's a common misconception about VA health care eligibility.

Not all veterans can access comprehensive VA health care (e.g., at a VA hospital or clinic) for any reason, but the barriers aren't as rigid as described.

Let me break it down clearly based on current VA rules

First, all veterans must meet a baseline service requirement to even apply for VA health care: honorable discharge (or similar) after active-duty service, with at least 24 continuous months if you enlisted after September 7, 1980 (or the full period called to active duty).

This applies regardless of income or job status. Once eligible, the VA assigns you to one of 8 "priority groups" that determine your access, wait times, and costs (like copays). Higher groups (1-3) get priority for all care; lower ones (7-8) may face limits or higher costs.

It's not a hard $55,000 cutoff

• Income does affect eligibility, but it's not a blanket "$55,000 per year" rule for everyone. The VA uses "means testing" based on your household gross income (yours + spouse/dependents) from the prior year, minus certain deductions like unreimbursed medical expenses or education costs. Limits are updated annually and vary by location (using geographic means test, or GMT, thresholds) and family size—typically around the federal poverty level plus adjustments, not $55,000.
• For 2025, national thresholds start around $16,000-$28,000 for a single veteran (depending on dependents), but can be higher in high-cost areas (e.g., up to $40,000+ in places like California). There's a "relaxation" rule: If your income is just 10% over the limit, you can still enroll in Priority Group 8 with copays.
• If your income exceeds these limits and you lack other qualifying factors (like a service-connected disability), you may be placed in Priority Group 8. However, new enrollments in Group 8 for high-income veterans without service-connected issues have been restricted since 2003 due to capacity limits—existing enrollees can stay, but others might be denied full access.

In short: A veteran with a "good job" and retirement income over ~$55,000 (or the actual threshold) won't automatically be barred, but they could face denial for non-service-connected care if they're not already enrolled or don't qualify for a higher group. Many still get in via other paths.

CaIl 877-222-8387—they'll verify the above.

Well I hope you tell this to the VA and the person I talked to at the VA in DC so they know it, because I sat here and talked to him on the phone for almost two hours and that is NOT what they are telling me,
And I also talked to my daughter who was the head of women's affairs for 5 or 6 year and has now got another promotion and she tells me the same thing as the guy on the phone did.
All I know is I make too much on my retirement and I have to prove to them what I need to go there for is service related.

 

[Diogenes]

Well I hope you tell this to the VA and the person I talked to at the VA in DC so they know it, because I sat here and talked to him on the phone for almost two hours and that is NOT what they are telling me, And I also talked to my daughter who was the head of women's affairs for 5 or 6 year and has now got another promotion and she tells me the same thing as the guy on the phone did. All I know is I make too much on my retirement and I have to prove to them what I need to go there for is service related.

Call the VA number and read what I posted to the associate.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Yep did you know NOT all vets can go to the VA hospital?
If a vet had or has a real good job and has a good retirement and makes over $55,000 a year they can not get healthcare there.
Only way they can get help there is they have to show ( prove ) what ever they want to go there for is service related.
And IMO that really SUCKS.
Especially if they are WAR vets that put their lives on the line in time of war.
YEP some vets put their time in and are war vets and are IMO getting fucked by the Government of the country they love and defended.

The VA has 8 categories for service. 1 is full military related disability to 8 getting service if space is available.

I'm in category 8 because I have alternative health insurance coverage, make way too much money, and have no military related disability. Not that I mind given the Phoenix VA has a reputation for providing shit service. Now, if I really wanted to use the VA I could up that to category 6 as I served in Bahrain and Enduring Freedom and could easily point out exposure to "toxic" chemicals. But I see no reason to do so.

VA priority groups | Veterans Affairs

Find out what VA priority groups are, how they work, and how they may affect you.

www.va.gov

The VA is primarily for service-related disabilities and injuries. It is secondary for other veterans. It is not supposed to be some lifetime automatic healthcare program for every veteran that served.