Corona Virus Peak Watch Thread

Dutch Uncle said:
This CDC link from last October predicts a $16T cost for the pandemic. $4.4T for premature deaths alone.

https://www.cdc.gov/library/covid19/102320_covidupdate.html

  • Total economic cost of US pandemic through Fall, 2021 estimated at $16 trillion or 90% of the gross domestic product (GDP).
  • Cumulative deaths estimated at 625,000 yielding $4.4 trillion in losses for premature death.
    [*]Losses from long-term COVID-19 complications estimated at $2.6 trillion.
    [*]Losses for mental health symptoms estimated at $1.6 trillion.
    [*]Lost economic output estimated at $7.6 trillion over 20 years.​
  • Lost income from COVID-19-induced recession accounts for 50% of total losses.
  • The economic return on investment of a SARS-CoV-2 testing and contact tracing program was estimated at 30 times the cost.
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Wow.

That's just staggering.

But one question. 90% of GDP?

That doesn't seem right. I thought our GDP was higher than that.

US Debt Clock lists the GDP at 21T

If the COVID losses amounted to 16T, that would be 16/21 = .76

.76 x 100% = 76% of GDP.

Still alarmingly high, either way.
 
PoliTalker said:
Wow.

That's just staggering.

But one question. 90% of GDP?

That doesn't seem right. I thought our GDP was higher than that.

US Debt Clock lists the GDP at 21T

If the COVID losses amounted to 16T, that would be 16/21 = .76

.76 x 100% = 76% of GDP.

Still alarmingly high, either way.
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Yes, still high.

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Sunday

12-20

USA

Total Cases 18,267,579

New Cases +183,223

Total Deaths 324,869

New Deaths +1,414

Total Recovered 10,622,082

Active Cases 7,320,628

Serious, Critical 27,997

Tot Cases/1M pop 55,036

Deaths/1M pop 979

Total Tests 234,217,195

Tests/1M pop 705,648
 
Monday

12-21

USA

Total Cases 18,473,716

New Cases +200,109

Total Deaths 326,772

New Deaths +1,841

Total Recovered 10,802,496

Active Cases 7,344,448

Serious, Critical 28,069

Tot Cases/1M pop 55,657

Deaths/1M pop 984

Total Tests 236,620,567

Tests/1M pop 712,877
 
PoliTalker said:
Looks like the number of Critical and Serious cases has stopped falling.

It crept back above 28,000.
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I always treat the Monday stats with some skepticism. Some of the states don't report over the weekend (Michigan is one of them) so Monday's stats may or may not reflect that. Even so, it's still very bad. Let's hope that schools letting out for the holidays will help, and that ppl refrain from parties and get-togethers for just a little while longer.

One hopeful thing: We were discussing the vaccine on social media over the weekend. Apparently there is some evidence that despite stringent adherence to PPE protocols, a good number of health care workers have developed antibodies to the virus w/o having suffered an acute infection. Wash U in St. Louis and the CDC have launched a study to determine just how many, percentagewise. If it turns out that most have antibodies, it seems logical to assume that tiny exposures over time can do the same thing that the vaccine will do. It also may mean that immunity doesn't wane over time, as well.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I always treat the Monday stats with some skepticism. Some of the states don't report over the weekend (Michigan is one of them) so Monday's stats may or may not reflect that. Even so, it's still very bad. Let's hope that schools letting out for the holidays will help, and that ppl refrain from parties and get-togethers for just a little while longer.

One hopeful thing: We were discussing the vaccine on social media over the weekend. Apparently there is some evidence that despite stringent adherence to PPE protocols, a good number of health care workers have developed antibodies to the virus w/o having suffered an acute infection. Wash U in St. Louis and the CDC have launched a study to determine just how many, percentagewise. If it turns out that most have antibodies, it seems logical to assume that tiny exposures over time can do the same thing that the vaccine will do. It also may mean that immunity doesn't wane over time, as well.
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This new strain of the virus is scary, 70% more contagious. I can’t wait to get vaccinated.
 
Phantasmal said:
This new strain of the virus is scary, 70% more contagious. I can’t wait to get vaccinated.
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You know it's already here. Probably like last spring, it'll hit NYC and Seattle the hardest at first. What's the vax priority for citizens in Texas? Healthcare workers and SNF residents/staff first?
 
Phantasmal said:
This new strain of the virus is scary, 70% more contagious. I can’t wait to get vaccinated.
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I don't know what it's like in the 'States, but over here it has all the feel of something organised by the centralised efficiency of Jolly Johnson. I wait for the phone to ring and wonder seriously if it will happen before I join the Ancestors! :) His ancestors (the few British ones) made such a balls-up of the Black Death it led to the Peasants Revolt and our last War of Independence . Here's hoping - if there are any of us left by then!
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
You know it's already here. Probably like last spring, it'll hit NYC and Seattle the hardest at first. What's the vax priority for citizens in Texas? Healthcare workers and SNF residents/staff first?
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Yes! But, we are deviating from CDC guidelines, because “we’re Texas”

I would rather see teachers and first responders get the vaccine.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nb...ase-for-covid-19-vaccine-rollout/2511208/?amp
Texas says it will concentrate on people 65 years and older, and those with certain chronic conditions.
 
Phantasmal said:
Yes! But, we are deviating from CDC guidelines, because “we’re Texas”

I would rather see teachers and first responders get the vaccine.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nb...ase-for-covid-19-vaccine-rollout/2511208/?amp
Texas says it will concentrate on people 65 years and older, and those with certain chronic conditions.
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Same here. We're pretty safe, we can wait and let them go first, along with food processors, grocery store workers, and ppl who keep things running.
 
Phantasmal said:
Shut up, Steven. The CDC before Trump was one of the most respected agencies in the world and it will return to that status, once again, under Biden.
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They had the reputation but they have not deserved that reputation for many years....the CDC was wrecked and no one noticed....or at least no one spoke up.

And fuck you.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
They had the reputation but they have not deserved that reputation for many years....the CDC was wrecked and no one noticed....or at least no one spoke up.

And fuck you.
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Your lame and uninformed opinion.

Thank you, but I’m not interested in your advances, Steven.
 
Phantasmal said:
Shut up, Steven. The CDC before Trump was one of the most respected agencies in the world and it will return to that status, once again, under Biden.
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In addition, we will return to WHO, the Paris Accord, and all the other agreements and organizations that HumptyTrumpty trashed.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
They had the reputation but they have not deserved that reputation for many years....the CDC was wrecked and no one noticed....or at least no one spoke up.

And fuck you.
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Why does she keep calling you "Steven"? (she calls a lot of people "Steven", though:laugh:) I don't think she likes you very much.... ;)
 
TOP said:
Why does she keep calling you "Steven"? (she calls a lot of people "Steven", though:laugh:) I don't think she likes you very much.... ;)
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Because I used to talk about "My brother Steven" maybe....of course she does not like me....I am a smart highly educated Free Man who speaks my mind, which does not conform to her mind......she is obviously brittle and frail.....she cant handle it.

My name is Steven, that was the whole point of "My brother Steven".
 
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