Jesus Christ as God and the Trinity Was Not Invented Until the Fourth Century?

NiftyNiblick said:
So I don't consider fetuses babies. An abortion is merely purging one's body of unwanted cells, much like a haircut.

And when babies ARE born, I want them to have a better social safety net than conservative hypocrites want to give them.
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Your stance on abortion shows how much you really value life.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
given I have already used history to prove you are a liar, I might suggest the same for you......however, I know you won't bother and you will post the same lie within a week.......
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i understand that that crap was drilled into your brain as a child and to question was the worst thing in the wold one can do


Sad
 
PostmodernProphet said:
idiots quoting idiots.....
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A very insightful article



After reading the Bible, many people are mystified as to why grown, otherwise intelligent adults would believe that it is the direct communication or the "inspired Word" of an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-good being. To many people, it seems absolutely incredible that any reasonable person could maintain this belief in the face of our current scientific knowledge and the contemporary understanding of history, religion and mythology. To outsiders, the phenomenon of Christian belief is a puzzlement.
However, after a bit of research and reflection, the mystery is resolved. It soon becomes apparent that the whole bizarre Christian belief system is predicated, to a large degree, on two compelling ideas. The first idea is that maintaining faith in Bible claims is the most morally virtuous act one can perform and will be rewarded with an eternal life of bliss. The second belief is that doubting biblical claims represents the greatest evil imaginable and will be punished with an eternity of torture. These linchpin beliefs make it possible for Christians to accept thoroughly ridiculous biblical assertions not merely in the absence of evidence, but against the evidence-against reason.
The sanctification of "faith" and demonization of doubt short-circuits the thinking process. Since it is continually drilled into Christians' brains that faith must be maintained at all costs, anything which contradicts a Bible claim is automatically rationalized away as the arrogance of the "wise," as a ploy of Satan, or as a test of faith from God himself. So when it is explained and demonstrated to a Christian that the Bible is simply a collection of ancient writings masquerading as the "Word of God," this is dismissed as the delusion of unbelievers blinded by their sin. (See the wisdom of the world) When scientific discoveries are shown to clearly, directly and unambiguously contradict biblical pronouncements, these scientific discoveries are interpreted by the Christian as satanic trickery. If it is patiently and painstakingly evinced to the Christian that the Bible is filled from one end to the other with obscene cruelty and violence, pagan mythology and superstition, blatant contradictions, ludicrous claims and outrageous, blithering idiocy, the Christian smiles in the face of this, confident that his faith is being tested by God and that he will be rewarded accordingly in the Age To Come.
It must be understood that in the Alice-in-Wonderland Christian world view, the more difficult it is to believe in a biblical claim, the more one is glorified for believing it. Faith, believing no matter what the facts say, is the highest manifestation of moral righteousness. Developing and maintaining one's faith in the preposterous and the incomprehensible becomes the ultimate purpose of life. Tertullian's declaration, "I believe because it is impossible," is the boast of a man who celebrates his irrationality. While liberal Christians today may pay lip service to the notion of a reasonable faith, the sentiment of Tertullin's inane "I believe because it is impossible" is alive and well and continues to be spouted from church pulpits on Sunday mornings: "Brethren, did not Paul say that God will make foolish the wisdom of the world, and choose that which is foolish to shame the wise of the world? Brothers and Sisters, did not JEEEZ-ZUSS tell us that unless we become as little children we will never enter the kingdom of heaven, that God has chosen to hide his light from the eyes of the wise and reveal himself to babes?" Reason and knowledge are ridiculed while biblical absurdities are held aloft as bless-ed revelation. This is how Christianity sustains itself. It is the only way that it can.
Thus the Christian faith's invisible attributes are now clearly to be seen. Behind all the sacraments and the rituals, the organ music and the angelic choirs, the praying lips and the arms thrust heavenward, behind all this, propping it all up, is the monstrous doctrine that gullibility and ignorance are divine.
Please don't try to explain this to a Christian though, for it has been most assuredly foretold that he would be mocked and persecuted for Jesus' sake by the "wise" of a fallen, perishing world. Yea, lo, verily, for it has been written...


http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=sk...nted-one.com/BBU84/biblicalstupidity/home.htm
 
Threedee said:
Your stance on abortion shows how much you really value life.
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Does the womans life matter?


or just fetuses


even when illegal abortion never stops


why not do what actually keeps its numbers Down


free womens reproductive care


that would be a good thing for churches to pay for huh
 
guno said:
i understand that that crap was drilled into your brain as a child and to question was the worst thing in the wold one can do


Sad
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and yet I provided proof from secular sources and you provided shit dripping off your upper lip.......sorry.....
 
guno said:
To outsiders, the phenomenon of Christian belief is a puzzlement.
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understandable considering the "scholarship" of the folks you like to quote.......why don't you research some folks besides atheists who have to rely on each other as sources.......you know, perhaps someone who actually has studied the issue......
 
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