Anti-regime Iranians turn against Trump and America

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‘You are all worse than each other’: anti-regime Iranians turn on Trump​

Mood among some in Iran shifts from hope of being rescued to dismay at destruction of infrastructure, culture and lives

After years of arrests, disappearances and mass killings of protesters, the hatred in Iran from some quarters for the hardline, oppressive governing regime had boiled into such a desperate rage that many believed Donald Trump’s promise that the US would “come to their rescue”.

Now, after a fortnight of war, with US and Israeli airstrikes killing hundreds as they hit residential blocks, shops, fuel depots and even a school, the mood is changing.

They are also lying! Like the regime has been lying to us,” said Amir*, a student at the University of Tehran. “You are all worse than each other.”

The anti-regime protester has let himself hope for more from the US and Israel, which on the first day of the war had swiftly killed Iran’s most feared and powerful man, the supreme leader.

Yet the regime lives on, with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei’s son quickly appointed to replace him, while Israel has widened and intensified its attacks on the country of more than 90 million people.

The turning point for Amir was the Israeli strikes on fuel depots in Tehran last week, with one attack on the Shahran oil depot overshadowing the capital with black smoke. A rain shower later covered trees, homes and cars with layers of toxic oil.

“I genuinely believe now they [the US and Israel] didn’t have a plan. I was still hoping I was wrong, but the Shahran attack changed the way I look at this war right now,” he said. “If the regime is what you want to hit, even if you think these depots were used by the regime, where do you draw the line? What about us, the ordinary Iranians? We rely on this civil infrastructure. Why take away our ability to govern in the future? Who can rebuild utter ruins?”

Amir said he now had constant anxiety about Iran “turning into another Iraq”, a country the US invaded in 2003, promising freedom but delivering a civil war.

www.theguardian.com

‘You are all worse than each other’: anti-regime Iranians turn on Trump

Mood among some in Iran shifts from hope of being rescued to dismay at destruction of infrastructure, culture and lives
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Cypress said:
Only Trump could have turned anti-regime Iranians against America.

I don't think any other American politician could have done that.
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Everything Trump touches turns to shit. He's the anti-Midas as well as the Antichrist.

What did they expect would happen? We're deeply divided here as well, but you can bet if someone attacked us we'd likely stick together against them too.

Or maybe not. I'm not sure what I would do if Mexico and Canada invaded with the idea of removing Trump so we could get back to having a sane leader again. lol
 
tsuke11 said:
Persians can whine all they like. The revolution is going to start in the Kurd, Azeri, and Baluch areas.
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Amir said he now had constant anxiety about Iran “turning into another Iraq”, a country the US invaded in 2003, promising freedom but delivering a civil war.

“I genuinely believe now they [the US and Israel] didn’t have a plan. I was still hoping I was wrong, but the Shahran attack changed the way I look at this war right now" Amir said. "Why take away our ability to govern in the future? Who can rebuild utter ruins?”
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Everything Trump touches turns to shit. He's the anti-Midas as well as the Antichrist.

What did they expect would happen? We're deeply divided here as well, but you can bet if someone attacked us we'd likely stick together against them too.

Or maybe not. I'm not sure what I would do if Mexico and Canada invaded with the idea of removing Trump so we could get back to having a sane leader again. lol
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Everyone says Vance would be just as bad or even worse than Trump. But the reports are that Vance tried to talk Trump out of this stupid war.
 
Cypress said:
Amir said he now had constant anxiety about Iran “turning into another Iraq”, a country the US invaded in 2003, promising freedom but delivering a civil war.

“I genuinely believe now they [the US and Israel] didn’t have a plan. I was still hoping I was wrong, but the Shahran attack changed the way I look at this war right now" Amir said. "Why take away our ability to govern in the future? Who can rebuild utter ruins?”
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Who is this "Amir"? :rolleyes2:
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Everything Trump touches turns to shit. He's the anti-Midas as well as the Antichrist.

What did they expect would happen? We're deeply divided here as well, but you can bet if someone attacked us we'd likely stick together against them too.

Or maybe not. I'm not sure what I would do if Mexico and Canada invaded with the idea of removing Trump so we could get back to having a sane leader again. lol
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And you can bet that he will be making millions on this.
If you want to make a lot of money just watch Trumps investments and do the same.
 
Phantasmal said:
Is it just coincidence that the Trump boys invested in a drone company before the war started?
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This is just another example of Trump stomping on the Constitution.
The Emolument clause bars the President from receiving any other Emolument [beyond a fixed salary] from the United States, or any of them.
So Trump making money off the job of being President is against the Constitution.
He did when he had Government personal use his Hotels and other trump property's.
Trump could give a shit about the Constitution .
 

After urging Iranians to rise up once bombing stops, Trump admits overthrow a ‘very big hurdle’​

After several statements over the past months and weeks urging Iranians to prepare to take to the streets and seize power from the government once the bombing stops, US President Donald Trump on Friday acknowledged that it will be very difficult for them to overthrow the regime.

The US president’s comments came as his administration reportedly dispatched some 2,200 Marines on three navy ships to the Middle East, in an indication of a potential further escalation of the Iran war.

“I really think that’s a big hurdle to climb for people that don’t have weapons,” Trump told host Brian Kilmeade on Fox News Radio, in response to a question about whether he still thinks Iranians should rise up and overthrow their government.

“I think it’s a very big hurdle,” he said.

“It’ll happen,” Trump declared, “but… maybe not immediately.”

At the start and in the early days of the US-Israeli strikes in Iran, Trump made repeated statements calling on the Iranian people to prepare to seize institutions once the bombings stopped and work to overthrow the regime.

However, his administration has reportedly assessed that Iran’s leadership is still largely intact and is not at risk of collapse any time soon after nearly two weeks of US and Israeli bombardment.


www.timesofisrael.com

After urging Iranians to rise up once bombing stops, Trump admits overthrow a ‘very big hurdle’

US president says regime change 'will happen, but maybe not immediately,' also says Putin may be helping Iran 'a little bit'; US reportedly sends 2,200 Marines to Middle East
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