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Old 03-12-2010, 12:07 PM
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March 12, 2010

By Ben Smith

The rise of a new conservative grass-roots fueled by a secular revulsion at government spending is stirring fears among leaders of the old conservative grass-roots, the evangelical Christian right.

A reeling economy and the Obama administration’s massive bank bailout and stimulus plan were the triggers for a resurgence in support for the Republican Party and the rise of the tea party movement. But they’ve also banished the social issues that are the focus of many evangelical Christians to the background.

And while health care legislation has brought social and economic conservatives together to fight government funding of abortion, some social conservative leaders have begun to express concern that tea party leaders don’t care about their issues, while others object to the personal vitriol against President Barack Obama, whose personal conduct many conservative Christians applaud.

“There’s a libertarian streak in the tea party movement that concerns me as a cultural conservative,” said Bryan Fischer, director of Issue Analysis for Government and Public Policy at the American Family Association. “The tea party movement needs to insist that candidates believe in the sanctity of life and the sanctity of marriage.”

“As far as I can tell [the tea party movement] has a politics that’s irreligious. I can’t see how some of my fellow conservatives identify with it,” said Richard Cizik, who broke with a major evangelical group over his support for government action on climate change, but who remains largely in line with the Christian right on social issues. “The younger Evangelicals who I interact with are largely turned off by the tea party movement — by the incivility, the name-calling, the pathos of politics.”
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No, not the pro-choice or Mormon or jewish, or social liberals... or gays, or interracial, or freckled, or those with ginger hair..
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About the end to freedom and democracy that teabaggers threaten? Yes. The demagoguery? Yes. All teabaggers need to be rounded up and killed, for the good of America. The founders would have done it, it's a shame that America's modern liberals don't have the balls that our founding liberals did.
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While the Obama administration provides a common enemy, their goals are vastly different. One wants individual liberties while the other wants gov't interference in ways of their own choosing.

It could cost them elections in the future or it could see a fiscal conservative elected.
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About the end to freedom and democracy that teabaggers threaten? Yes. The demagoguery? Yes. All teabaggers need to be rounded up and killed, for the good of America. The founders would have done it, it's a shame that America's modern liberals don't have the balls that our founding liberals did.
That's because the founders weren't liberals, using today's definition. That's amusing that you'd attempt to identify yourself with them.
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One of the hopeful signs is that many of the fiscal conservatives are open to discussion.
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I think most of America would prefer it if they both went away.
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About the end to freedom and democracy that teabaggers threaten? Yes. The demagoguery? Yes. All teabaggers need to be rounded up and killed, for the good of America. The founders would have done it, it's a shame that America's modern liberals don't have the balls that our founding liberals did.
you know....language like that was frequently heard in Germany back in the 30s......people like you got special jobs in prison camps in places like Auswitch...
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I think most of America would prefer it if they both went away.
seriously, what is it that the Tea Party is saying that you hate so much.....
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