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Old 03-05-2010, 07:29 AM
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'The Rules' by Eliot Spitzer

"What are the parameters of government intervention in the marketplace? What rules should we use in deciding when the government should act, and when it should let the market take its course?

Has our response to the immediate crisis been successful?

How might we restore an effective structure for corporate governance? The failures of corporate governance account for much of our economic troubles over the past 30 years. Getting out of the current mess will require addressing these underlying failures."

http://bostonreview.net/BR35.2/spitzer.php

'To sum up, I want to leave you with ten points:'

" Only government can enforce integrity and transparency in the marketplace; self-regulation is a failure.

Only government can take necessary steps to overcome market failures, such as negative externalities or monopoly power.

Only government can act to preserve certain core values in the market, such as prohibitions on discrimination...."
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Old 03-05-2010, 07:33 AM
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'The Rules' by Eliot Spitzer

"What are the parameters of government intervention in the marketplace? What rules should we use in deciding when the government should act, and when it should let the market take its course?

Has our response to the immediate crisis been successful?

How might we restore an effective structure for corporate governance? The failures of corporate governance account for much of our economic troubles over the past 30 years. Getting out of the current mess will require addressing these underlying failures."

http://bostonreview.net/BR35.2/spitzer.php

'To sum up, I want to leave you with ten points:'

" Only government can enforce integrity and transparency in the marketplace; self-regulation is a failure.

Only government can take necessary steps to overcome market failures, such as negative externalities or monopoly power.

Only government can act to preserve certain core values in the market, such as prohibitions on discrimination...."
How can the government possibly enforce integrity and transparency in the private sector, when it cannot do the same within its own ranks?
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How can the government possibly enforce integrity and transparency in the private sector, when it cannot do the same within its own ranks?
Spitzer can't even do it in his personal life.
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'The Rules' by Eliot Spitzer

"What are the parameters of government intervention in the marketplace? What rules should we use in deciding when the government should act, and when it should let the market take its course?

Has our response to the immediate crisis been successful?

How might we restore an effective structure for corporate governance? The failures of corporate governance account for much of our economic troubles over the past 30 years. Getting out of the current mess will require addressing these underlying failures."

http://bostonreview.net/BR35.2/spitzer.php

'To sum up, I want to leave you with ten points:'

" Only government can enforce integrity and transparency in the marketplace; self-regulation is a failure.

Only government can take necessary steps to overcome market failures, such as negative externalities or monopoly power.

Only government can act to preserve certain core values in the market, such as prohibitions on discrimination...."
Excellent article.

We have to remember Greenspan stopped the investigation into fraud saying he didn't want to enforce fraud laws. The marketplace would look after it. Basically, he was saying if people invested and lost money it didn't matter if the company/stocks/financial instruments in which they were investing were "legit" or not. If someone could sell garbage Greenspan didn't care who bought it.

Here's the PBS video. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/view/
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'The Rules' by Eliot Spitzer

"What are the parameters of government intervention in the marketplace? What rules should we use in deciding when the government should act, and when it should let the market take its course?

Has our response to the immediate crisis been successful?

How might we restore an effective structure for corporate governance? The failures of corporate governance account for much of our economic troubles over the past 30 years. Getting out of the current mess will require addressing these underlying failures."

http://bostonreview.net/BR35.2/spitzer.php

'To sum up, I want to leave you with ten points:'

" Only government can enforce integrity and transparency in the marketplace; self-regulation is a failure.

Only government can take necessary steps to overcome market failures, such as negative externalities or monopoly power.

Only government can act to preserve certain core values in the market, such as prohibitions on discrimination...."

I like this article. These principles are self evident. Of course self-regulation doesn't work, and of course government is the only entity that can keep wealth and corporate interests from consolidating into monopolies. Of course you have to have clean government that can't be bought off by special interests. One that acts in the public interest. So until corporate donations are outlawed and public financing of campaigns is mandatory, I think you will continue to have politicans who do their corporate master's bidding to one degree or another.
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" Only government can enforce integrity and transparency in the marketplace; self-regulation is a failure.

Only government can take necessary steps to overcome market failures, such as negative externalities or monopoly power.

Only government can act to preserve certain core values in the market, such as prohibitions on discrimination...."
This doesn't advocate socialism, as you lib-tards strives for. It defines a regulated capitalism, as advocated by conservatives.
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government breaks and bankrupts everything it touches, yet you pinhead retard economists want to use it to control the marketplace. What are you trying to do? create a permanent depression?
Wasn't our Government instrumental in us getting to the moon?
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And that matters?
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Just pointing out Government doesn't break EVERYTHING it touches...
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Well, at least the dairy farmers know the cheese producers will continue to buy their milk.
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Just pointing out Government doesn't break EVERYTHING it touches...
Yes it does. Didn't Obama just bomb the moon?

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...e-moon-2009-06
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government breaks and bankrupts everything it touches, yet you pinhead retard economists want to use it to control the marketplace. What are you trying to do? create a permanent depression?
What?

The government is good for some things, not so good for others. Democracy is a good and unbeaten but not perfect system for managing this.
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I obviously disagree that the only thing governments good for is military, police, and the goddamn post office.
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