My grandmother was a racist...

[Jarod]

She said some of the most offensive things Ive ever herad. At first I would debate her about it. Later I learned that was no use.

I loved the woman and had a 25 year close association with her. Does that disqualify me from being president?

[Chapdog]

i think this premise will resonate. the closet door is open.

[evince]

We are all imperfect people.

We can all strive to be better and ask those arround us to strive to be better.

[Cypress]

Every human being is socialized with biases and prejudices, including myself.

The point is, to recognize the source of those biases. And hopefully deal with it.

A great recent example has been, that we have seen many wingnut armchair theology experts, solemnly claim that Pastor Wright is a racist, based on 15 seconds of video. Yet, these same wingnuts apparently have made no attempt, and have no knowledge of the contextual and historical basis for the gospel-based rhetoric of social justice and solidarity in many of the historic black churches.

[Chapdog]

We are all imperfect people.

We can all strive to be better and ask those arround us to strive to be better.

If in the last few years you haven't discarded a major opinion or acquired a new one, check your pulse. You may be dead. ~Gelett Burgess

[Damocles]

She said some of the most offensive things Ive ever herad. At first I would debate her about it. Later I learned that was no use.

I loved the woman and had a 25 year close association with her. Does that disqualify me from being president?

You can't choose your grandmother, but you can choose who teaches spirituality to your children.

[Jarod]

You can't choose your grandmother, but you can choose who teaches spirituality to your children.

Is there some evidence this dude taught spirituality to Obamas' children?

[uscitizen]

Is there some evidence this dude taught spirituality to Obamas' children?

damo is hoping. along with a touch of spin there.

[Damocles]

Is there some evidence this dude taught spirituality to Obamas' children?

Um, yes. He was their pastor.

[Jarod]

Um, yes. He was their pastor.

You did not answer my question. Plenty of people do not have there pastor teach anything to there kids.

Usually thats left up to a sunday school teacher for one thing.

[Damocles]

You did not answer my question. Plenty of people do not have there pastor teach anything to there kids.

Usually thats left up to a sunday school teacher for one thing.

Rubbish, they sit in the pews and are taught. You are being inane to the point of silliness.

[Superfreak]

Every human being is socialized with biases and prejudices, including myself.

The point is, to recognize the source of those biases. And hopefully deal with it.

A great recent example has been, that we have seen many wingnut armchair theology experts, solemnly claim that Pastor Wright is a racist, based on 15 seconds of video. Yet, these same wingnuts apparently have made no attempt, and have no knowledge of the contextual and historical basis for the gospel-based rhetoric of social justice and solidarity in many of the historic black churches.

Apparently Obama didn't get the memo on that either....

""But the remarks that have caused this recent firestorm weren’t simply controversial. They weren’t simply a religious leader’s effort to speak out against perceived injustice. Instead, they expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country – a view that sees white racism as endemic, and that elevates what is wrong with America above all that we know is right with America; a view that sees the conflicts in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel, instead of emanating from the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam.

As such, Reverend Wright’s comments were not only wrong but divisive, divisive at a time when we need unity; racially charged at a time when we need to come together to solve a set of monumental problems – two wars, a terrorist threat, a falling economy, a chronic health care crisis and potentially devastating climate change; problems that are neither black or white or Latino or Asian, but rather problems that confront us all."

But my guess is you will ignore that yet again.... won't you Gumby?

[Damocles]

Apparently Obama didn't get the memo on that either....

""But the remarks that have caused this recent firestorm weren’t simply controversial. They weren’t simply a religious leader’s effort to speak out against perceived injustice. Instead, they expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country – a view that sees white racism as endemic, and that elevates what is wrong with America above all that we know is right with America; a view that sees the conflicts in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel, instead of emanating from the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam.

As such, Reverend Wright’s comments were not only wrong but divisive, divisive at a time when we need unity; racially charged at a time when we need to come together to solve a set of monumental problems – two wars, a terrorist threat, a falling economy, a chronic health care crisis and potentially devastating climate change; problems that are neither black or white or Latino or Asian, but rather problems that confront us all."

But my guess is you will ignore that yet again.... won't you Gumby?

Of course he will, because it sounds like what I have been saying. All of the apologists seem to ignore it.

Obama did what I thought he should. Will it be enough?

[Jarod]

Rubbish, they sit in the pews and are taught. You are being inane to the point of silliness.

In most churches ive been to the kids do not go to the main service, and politics are not usually mentioned.

[Superfreak]

Of course he will, because it sounds like what I have been saying. All of the apologists seem to ignore it.

Obama did what I thought he should. Will it be enough?

Yeah, I noticed their sudden silence about "fear of the angry black man" etc...

Though I suppose they don't appreciate their ignorance being put out there for all to witness.