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    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...007-03-28.html

    OMG .... So shady.... looks like Obama is in deep now. OMG

    Time to act like this is a big deal.... play like he is so crooked and we are disappointed he wasn't promoting clean government.... blah blah blah OMG!!!

    Must also remember to act like he lied to us about his involvement with lobbyists.

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    Obama’s spokesman Bill Burton said the senator knows that it is impossible to completely escape the influence of Washington’s establishment, but that rejecting lobbyists’ money is an important gesture.

    “Senator Obama said when he set out this policy that it doesn’t solve the problem of money in politics but it is a sign and symbolic step in the right direction,” said Burton. “It’s not going to stop the sway that money has over policies or that special interests have over legislation, but it indicates the type of administration Obama would have if elected.”

    Other K Street players working to build momentum for Obama are former Sen. Tom Daschle (D-S.D.), a consultant for Alston & Bird; Broderick Johnson, president of Bryan Cave Strategies LLC; Mark Keam, the lead Democratic lobbyist at Verizon; Jimmy Williams, vice president of government affairs for the Wine & Spirits Wholesalers of America; Thomas Walls, vice president of federal public affairs at McGuireWoods Consulting; and Francis Grab, senior manager at Washington Council Ernst & Young.

    Lobbyists tend to be cautious creatures. Evidence that they are flocking to Obama’s camp shows that his campaign has gained substantial momentum among the politically sophisticated.

    Some of Obama’s K Street boosters keep their support a secret to uphold Obama’s image as a Washington outsider untainted by D.C.’s influence business."


    OMG OMG OMG!!!!

    Corporate lobbyists working to elect him..... OMG!!!!

    Lobbyists hiding their connection to him.... OMG!!!

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    http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/16/2561/

    "In his speeches, Obama has lambasted lobbyists and moneyed interests who “have turned our government into a game only they can afford to play.”

    "But last year, at the request of a hired representative for an Australian-owned chemical corporation Nufarm, Obama introduced nine separate bills exempting the company from import fees on a range of chemical ingredients it uses in the manufacture of pesticides and herbicides. Nufarm’s U.S. subsidiary is based in Illinois.

    Nufarm wasn’t the only beneficiary of Obama’s efforts to reduce customs fees and duties. In early May of 2006, two Washington lobbyists registered to work on behalf of Astellas Pharma, a Japanese-owned drug company which also has offices in Illinois.

    The lobbyists’ task? “Introduce legislation to temporarily suspend customs duties for the importation of a pharmaceutical ingredient,” they wrote on their lobbying forms. Less than three weeks later, the men had earned their $20,000 fee, thanks to Obama. "

    OMG OMG OMG!!!!! LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!!!!

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    LOL. Awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    LOL. Awesome.
    I suppose I should add the "SARCASM ALERT" for Lorax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post

    OMG OMG OMG!!!!! LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!!!!
    This is my favorite part. The stunning wording, the amazing way you back it all up, it's so eloquent. You should write for Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    This is my favorite part. The stunning wording, the amazing way you back it all up, it's so eloquent. You should write for Obama.

    The only problem with this silly shit is that Obama never lied about it. McCain has.

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    superfreak forgot to give me credit. I'm the one who suggested two hours ago, that Obama has plenty of lobbyist ties too. And Joila! Superfreak goes on a mission to do research, and posts it a couple hours later.

    As DH says, you'll have to show where obama lied, and which lobbyist obama had such a close realtionship with that it literally alarmed and freaked out some of his staff.

    I personallly think both guys are too close to lobbyists. IMO, Obama is going to be cleaner than McCain. And I base that on a number of empircal observations, many of which others have mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dungheap View Post
    The only problem with this silly shit is that Obama never lied about it. McCain has.
    Oh, he most certainly lied about it. My evidence is that someone else said so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    Oh, he most certainly lied about it. My evidence is that someone else said so.
    Well, according to their past performance, they are now convinced. Totally and fully convinced.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
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    i just don't trust this dude.

    hope i'm wrong, as it appears he'll be the nominee.

    as a registered republican, i'm leaning against my party in hopes of completely purging it of the 'old guard' of 'same old same old'.

    mccain is just another politician who bends the truth to his favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Well, according to their past performance, they are now convinced. Totally and fully convinced.

    I know. That pretty much wraps this up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awakened View Post
    i just don't trust this dude.

    hope i'm wrong, as it appears he'll be the nominee.

    as a registered republican, i'm leaning against my party in hopes of completely purging it of the 'old guard' of 'same old same old'.

    mccain is just another politician who bends the truth to his favor.
    He is not a southerner and he is not a populist. That is the guard that needs to be purged from the party, because populism has always been incompatible with GOP principles, which is why populists voted Dem until 1980.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    He is not a southerner and he is not a populist. That is the guard that needs to be purged from the party, because populism has always been incompatible with GOP principles, which is why populists voted Dem until 1980.
    He is also not uber-religious. This is a plus from my perspective. First lets get to the real principles of the party, then deal with all that mess after...
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

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