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    Default Hillary: I may garnish your wages to pay for my Universal Health Care plan

    But don't worry, she said. She'll first have the government check your means and lifestyle to see if you can afford to lose that money. After the government decides how your money is better spent, THEN they'll take it.

    Hope that makes you feel better about her plans for you.

    Remember, you still DO have choice: You can choose whether to elect her or not. If you elect her, that may be the last choice you see for a long, long time.

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    Clinton health plan may mean tapping pay

    by CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writer
    Sun Feb 3, 11:40 AM ET

    WASHINGTON - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday she might be willing to garnish the wages of workers who refuse to buy health insurance to achieve coverage for all Americans.

    The New York senator has criticized presidential rival Barack Obama for pushing a health plan that would not require universal coverage. Clinton has not always specified the enforcement measures she would embrace, but when pressed on ABC's "This Week," she said: "I think there are a number of mechanisms" that are possible, including "going after people's wages, automatic enrollment."

    Clinton said such measures would apply only to workers who can afford health coverage but refuse to buy it, which puts undue pressure on hospitals and emergency rooms. With her proposals for subsidies, she said, "it will be affordable for everyone."
    The Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than the system we're using now.

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    About the same thing I told bush supporters in 2000 and again in 2004.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    But don't worry, she said. She'll first have the government check your means and lifestyle to see if you can afford to lose that money. After the government decides how your money is better spent, THEN they'll take it.

    Hope that makes you feel better about her plans for you.

    Remember, you still DO have choice: You can choose whether to elect her or not. If you elect her, that may be the last choice you see for a long, long time.

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080203/...ampaign_rdp_31

    Clinton health plan may mean tapping pay

    by CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writer
    Sun Feb 3, 11:40 AM ET

    WASHINGTON - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday she might be willing to garnish the wages of workers who refuse to buy health insurance to achieve coverage for all Americans.

    The New York senator has criticized presidential rival Barack Obama for pushing a health plan that would not require universal coverage. Clinton has not always specified the enforcement measures she would embrace, but when pressed on ABC's "This Week," she said: "I think there are a number of mechanisms" that are possible, including "going after people's wages, automatic enrollment."

    Clinton said such measures would apply only to workers who can afford health coverage but refuse to buy it, which puts undue pressure on hospitals and emergency rooms. With her proposals for subsidies, she said, "it will be affordable for everyone."
    What is best for YOU.... just ask Hillary, she knows what is best for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    About the same thing I told bush supporters in 2000 and again in 2004.
    ahhh, the typical bullshit from US. So very refreshing to see you actually comment on the subject matter rather than take another shot at Bush.

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    and if you don't enroll in Hillery care you run the risk of being a criminal, as everyone is required by law to sign up.

    The Obama Deficit:1,700,000,000,000.00
    The US Debt. 44% foreign subsidized

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    And congress does not have to pass anything ?
    Just hoopla hyperbole at this point.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    This is going to be the funnest election year in my lifetime. Seriously.
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    Man I hope they nominate her, I just can't contain my excitement.

    "I've got a million idea's and America can't afford them all" Hillery Clinton Nov 2007

    The Obama Deficit:1,700,000,000,000.00
    The US Debt. 44% foreign subsidized

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    OK, if your taxes go up by 3%, but you're not paying any money for healthcare anymore, isn't that a net positive for the US? I think so. Anyone with common sense knows so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    This is going to be the funnest election year in my lifetime. Seriously.
    Well, the journey might be a hoot, but the arrival may be bad news indeed.

    The Democrats are fielding an almost-identical field of candidates, that is the farthest-left in the country's history. Even George McGovern never proposed forced enrollment and outright confiscation of people's wages when running his campaign.

    Fortunately, there was a relatively conservative alternative in Richard Nixon, whom voters decided was far preferable to McGovern despite the growing Watergate scandal, giving Nixon a landslide victory.

    This time, there is no candidate that conservative, and their comparatively clean records may not be enough to get them elected.

    Careful what you wish for, Damocles. Bungee jumping is fun, until the moment you find out the hard way that the elastic cords are too long. >:-O
    The Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than the system we're using now.

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    Obama's plan has an opt-out option. That's one of the reasons I support Obama. I see no reason why making the plan mandatory would reduce its costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    OK, if your taxes go up by 3%, but you're not paying any money for healthcare anymore, isn't that a net positive for the US? I think so. Anyone with common sense knows so.
    Gotta love that. It's OK to turn over more and more power over your life to an indifferent, overbearing bureaucracy... as long as they only charge you a little for the privilege!

    There speaks the quintessential modern liberal!

    Obama's plan has an opt-out option. That's one of the reasons I support Obama. I see no reason why making the plan mandatory would reduce its costs.
    Republicans have an even better opt-out option: You don't have to sign up in the first place, because they OPPOSE socialized health care!

    This just keeps getting better. Democrats offer a disasterous plan for socializing all of health care... even as their lapdogs say one of the good parts of the plan is that you can get out of it!

    You can't make this stuff up, folks.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    Gotta love that. It's OK to turn over more and more power over your life to an indifferent, overbearing bureaucracy... as long as they only charge you a little for the privilege!

    There speaks the quintessential modern liberal!
    If it means that I can save 5% of my money I'm all into this common sense proposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    Well, the journey might be a hoot, but the arrival may be bad news indeed.

    The Democrats are fielding an almost-identical field of candidates, that is the farthest-left in the country's history. Even George McGovern never proposed forced enrollment and outright confiscation of people's wages when running his campaign.

    Fortunately, there was a relatively conservative alternative in Richard Nixon, whom voters decided was far preferable to McGovern despite the growing Watergate scandal, giving Nixon a landslide victory.

    This time, there is no candidate that conservative, and their comparatively clean records may not be enough to get them elected.

    Careful what you wish for, Damocles. Bungee jumping is fun, until the moment you find out the hard way that the elastic cords are too long. >:-O
    In a republic, all things can be fixed with an informed vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    In a republic, all things can be fixed with an informed vote.
    They can be prevented with an informed vote, even more easily.

    Something I haven't seen much evidence of lately.
    The Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than the system we're using now.

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