The free market

[China Apologist]

The free market is such a brilliant system because in it people work together cooperatively and mutually based on their own free will for what is best for themselves, instead of being coerced by others into doing what others think is best for them.

Take that socialists!

[AssHatZombie]

The free market is such a brilliant system because in it people work together cooperatively and mutually based on their own free will for what is best for themselves, instead of being coerced by others into doing what others think is best for them.

Take that socialists!

Does that include people slaving in overseas sweatshops run by the families of the dictator, who does not allow other opportunities in the country or cuts people off from food and other resources unless they work in the sweatshop? Is that freedom?

[China Apologist]

Does that include people slaving in overseas sweatshops run by the families of the dictator, who does not allow other opportunities in the country or cut people off from food and other resources unless they work in the sweatshop? Is that freedom?

Of course.

[AssHatZombie]

Of course.

Do you consider that freedom?

[Dungheap]

Do you consider that freedom?

Certainly, it's the freedom to purchase cheaply manufactured consumer goods.

[AssHatZombie]

Certainly, it's the freedom to purchase cheaply manufactured consumer goods.

But is it freedom for the slaves overseas?

[Dungheap]

But it is freedom for the slaves overseas?

It's part of the wonders of globalization. With more market interaction with the Chinese they'll just have to become more free. Or something. Right?

[Topspin]

slave wages to you may mean the difference of eating and not eating to them.
This is way over your paygrade asshat.

[Professor Baxter]

I Love the way nAHZi pretends he gives a shit about freeing foreigners and then denies them the right to move here legally.

[gonzojournals]

There are no slaves overseas...even with the minimal wages we pay overseas workers, it is still a hell of a lot more than their own business/governments would be paying.

The fact is that the standard of living in America is so overinflated that we assume our dollar carries the exact same worth in other countries, and this simply isn't true.

50 cents in some shit village in China is going to go a whole hell of a lot further than 50 cents in the States.

[Dungheap]

I Love the way nAHZi pretends he gives a shit about freeing foreigners and then denies them the right to move here legally.

Well, his care for foreigners earning slave wages is only secondary to his concern for US manufacturing jobs being outsourced. I think he sees the human rights angle as more appealing than a pure protectionist stance, hence his concern for the welfare of the Chinese commoner.

[Professor Baxter]

Trade with China has increased their freedom. Over the last few decades, they've done more to liberalize their nation than just about any country in the world. Meanwhile the emargoed state of Cuba has not improved much at all.

Slavery is not effective economics. If it were then socialists/communists nations would do better than free market nations.

[China Apologist]

Do you consider that freedom?

HAVEN'T YOU EVER HEARD OF THE RIGHT TO SLAVERY!?

[China Apologist]

There are no slaves overseas...even with the minimal wages we pay overseas workers, it is still a hell of a lot more than their own business/governments would be paying.

The fact is that the standard of living in America is so overinflated that we assume our dollar carries the exact same worth in other countries, and this simply isn't true.

50 cents in some shit village in China is going to go a whole hell of a lot further than 50 cents in the States.

Gonzo, that's just terrible economics... I don't know where to begin...

[China Apologist]

It's part of the wonders of globalization. With more market interaction with the Chinese they'll just have to become more free. Or something. Right?

I hope you and AssHat are enjoying arguing with each others sequential strawman.