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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    I'm impressed that a governor can ban cities.
    He will bitch slap these guys for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    stop wasting our time......states MUST do what the federal laws order them to do......everything else is just bullshit.....
    Lots of conservatives would disagree. The states are supposed to be sovereign countries. The federal govt exists alongside them, not above them. The Supremacy Clause in the constitution is often quoted as saying federal laws are above state laws but that's not what it says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    stop wasting our time......states MUST do what the federal laws order them to do......everything else is just bullshit.....
    What about pot? Pot is a Narcotic and a felony (Fed Law) to posses or grow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    ????.....the separation of powers deals with the three branches of federal government, not the division between states and the federal government.......you certainly are the Master of Irrelevancy.......
    yes, that is also, a separation of powers, secured by our Tenth Amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Only Sarge View Post
    What about pot? Pot is a Narcotic and a felony (Fed Law) to posses or grow.
    Yup - states are openly defying the federal law on that point and getting away with it. That's why trump needs to cut federal funding for states that allow sanctuary cities. He also needs to prosecute city officials PERSONALLY who encourage illegals to live in their city.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    Yup - states are openly defying the federal law on that point and getting away with it. That's why trump needs to cut federal funding for states that allow sanctuary cities. He also needs to prosecute city officials PERSONALLY who encourage illegals to live in their city.
    We have a Commerce Clause; should we impeach the right for being such kettles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    Yes it is their perrogative.
    4 SCOTUS rulings have said so.
    Check the anti-commandeering principle of the 10th
    really?......is that why no state police give Miranda warnings?.......is that why NYC policemen can arrest UN delegates?.....the cities and states cannot IGNORE federal law......

    cite me these four cases.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    I'm impressed that a governor can ban cities.
    why do you think Cincinnati no longer exists......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    really?......is that why no state police give Miranda warnings?.......is that why NYC policemen can arrest UN delegates?.....the cities and states cannot IGNORE federal law......

    cite me these four cases.....
    She cant. It is the keyboard tourettes again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    The tenth amendment says enforcing immigration laws is up to the states.
    Show us
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    By the way you are comepletely incorrect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Only Sarge View Post
    She cant. It is the keyboard tourettes again.
    I am a male you bloviating mental midget
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    I am a male you bloviating mental midget
    Whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    The tenth amendment says enforcing immigration laws is up to the states.
    Article 1, Section 9 declares immigration to be a federal purview and no longer a States' right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    really?......is that why no state police give Miranda warnings?.......is that why NYC policemen can arrest UN delegates?.....the cities and states cannot IGNORE federal law......

    cite me these four cases.....
    http://www.yalelawjournal.org/articl...utional-change and

    http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2013...ring-doctrine/

    Laws passed in pursuance of the Constitution do stand as the supreme law of the land. But that doesn’t in any way imply the federal government lords over everything and everybody in America.
    First off, as James Madison asserted in Federalist 45, the powers of the federal government are “few and defined.” So federal power actually extends into only a few spheres. Most power and authority was left to the states and the people.
    Second, even within those areas that the federal government does exercise authority, it cannot force state or local governments to cooperate in enforcement or implementation. The feds must exercise their authority on their own, unless the state and local governments choose to assist.
    Simply put, the federal government cannot force state or local governments to act against their will.
    This is known as the anti-commandeering doctrine, and it is well established in constitutional jurisprudence. Four Supreme Court opinions dating back to 1842 serve as the foundation for this legal doctrine.
    In Prigg v. Pennsylvania (1842), Justice Joseph Story held that the federal government could not force states to implement or carry out the Fugitive Slave Act of 1793. He said that it was a federal law, and the federal government ultimately had to enforce it.
    The fundamental principle applicable to all cases of this sort, would seem to be, that where the end is required, the means are given; and where the duty is enjoined, the ability to perform it is contemplated to exist on the part of the functionaries to whom it is entrusted. The clause is found in the national Constitution, and not in that of any state. It does not point out any state functionaries, or any state action to carry its provisions into effect. The states cannot, therefore, be compelled to enforce them; and it might well be deemed an unconstitutional exercise of the power of interpretation, to insist that the states are bound to provide means to carry into effect the duties of the national government, nowhere delegated or instrusted to them by the Constitution.
    In the early 90s, the state of New York sued the federal government asserting provisions in the Low-Level Radioactive Waste Policy Amendments Act of 1985 were coercive and violated its sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment. The Court majority in New York v. United States (1992) agreed, holding that “because the Act’s take title provision offers the States a ‘choice’ between the two unconstitutionally coercive alternatives–either accepting ownership of waste or regulating according to Congress’ instructions–the provision lies outside Congress’ enumerated powers and is inconsistent with the Tenth Amendment.”
    Sandra Day O’Connor wrote for the majority in the 6-3 decision.
    As an initial matter, Congress may not simply “commandee[r] the legislative processes of the States by directly compelling them to enact and enforce a federal regulatory program.”
    She later expounded on this point.
    While Congress has substantial powers to govern the Nation directly, including in areas of intimate concern to the States, the Constitution has never been understood to confer upon Congress the ability to require the States to govern according to Congress’ instructions.
    O’Connor argues that standing alone, both options offered to the State of New York for dealing with radioactive waste in the act represented an unconstitutional overreach. Therefore, forcing the state to choose between the two is also unconstitutional.
    A choice between two unconstitutionally coercive regulatory techniques is no choice at all. Either way, “the Act commandeers the legislative processes of the States by directly compelling them to enact and enforce a federal regulatory program.”
    Printz v. United States (1997) serves as the lynchpin for the anti-commandeering doctrine. At issue was a provision in the Brady Gun Bill that required county law enforcement officers to administer part of the background check program. Sheriffs Jay Printz and Richard Mack sued, arguing these provisions unconstitutionally forced them to administer a federal program. Justice Antonin Scalia agreed, writing in the majority opinion “it is apparent that the Brady Act purports to direct state law enforcement officers to participate, albeit only temporarily, in the administration of a federally enacted regulatory scheme.”
    Citing the New York case, the court majority declared this provision of the Brady Gun Bill unconstitutional, expanding the reach of the anti-commandeering doctrine.
    We held in New York that Congress cannot compel the States to enact or enforce a federal regulatory program. Today we hold that Congress cannot circumvent that prohibition by conscripting the States’ officers directly. The Federal Government may neither issue directives requiring the States to address particular problems, nor command the States’ officers, or those of their political subdivisions, to administer or enforce a federal regulatory program. It matters not whether policymaking is involved, and no case-by-case weighing of the burdens or benefits is necessary; such commands are fundamentally incompatible with our constitutional system of dual sovereignty.
    Finally, the Court ruled that the federal government cannot force the states to act against their will by withholding funds in a coercive manner. In Independent Business v. Sebelius (2012), the Court held that the federal government can not compel states to expand Medicaid by threatening to withhold funding for Medicaid programs already in place. Justice Roberts argued that allowing Congress to essentially punish states that refused to go along violates constitutional separation of powers.
    The legitimacy of Congress’s exercise of the spending power “thus rests on whether the State voluntarily and knowingly accepts the terms of the ‘contract.’ ” Pennhurst, supra, at 17. Respecting this limitation is critical to ensuring that Spending Clause legislation does not undermine the status of the States as independent sovereigns in our federal system. That system “rests on what might at first seem a counterintuitive insight, that ‘freedom is enhanced by the creation of two governments, not one.’ ” Bond, 564 U. S., at ___ (slip op., at 8) (quoting Alden v. Maine, 527 U. S. 706, 758 (1999) ). For this reason, “the Constitution has never been understood to confer upon Congress the ability to require the States to govern according to Congress’ instructions.” New York, supra, at 162. Otherwise the two-government system established by the Framers would give way to a system that vests power in one central government, and individual liberty would suffer.
    Taken together, these four cases firmly establish a legal doctrine holding that the federal government has no authority to force states to cooperate in implementing or enforcing its acts. Even lawyers cannot dispute the legitimacy of nullification through noncooperation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Only Sarge View Post
    Whatever.
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