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    Default Ma Nature vs. DEA/Big Pharma.....Again

    September 15, 2016 - "The Drug Enforcement Administration has received a torrent of backlash from patients with chronic pain and former opiate users after announcing plans to ban kratom, a plant gaining popularity across the United States for its opiate-like effects.

    Kratom, which originates in Southeast Asia, has become more widespread in the United States in the past decade, fueled by online testimonials from users and a lack of federal regulation. Advocates say the plant — typically crushed and mixed or brewed with water — poses few health risks while helping users relieve severe pain and overcome addictions to powerful prescription painkillers.

    A DEA spokesman told The Washington Post that the agency has received a surprising number of comments about the ban and could ease the restrictions after further research.

    The drug has become popular enough that a non-profit group, the American Kratom Association, was founded in 2014 to represent kratom users and educate the public on the drug and its effects.

    Some researchers say that the DEA's reasoning for the ban is shaky and that cracking down on kratom could push users to more dangerous and addictive opiates.

    In a paper last year, Swogger and co-authors wrote that, in all of the fatal overdose cases involving kratom, the users had either taken other drugs, too, or had a history of alcohol- or heroin-abuse that also could have caused or contributed to the death.

    "We just don't know" what actually caused the kratom-related deaths, Swogger said in an interview.

    "The research indicates that this is a pretty mild substance," he said. "Criminalizing kratom use is insane to me."



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    I thought you libs LOVED government controls and regulations to make us safer?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    So you oppose the gobblement making people safe? You want people to die?

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    Gee! Ain't Obama running the DEA these days? Oh! that's right it's Bush's fault, huh?
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    I thought you libs LOVED government controls and regulations to make us safer?
    No. You faith-based folks do very-little original thinking....preferring (instead) the benefit of being lead-around, so.....at the very-least.....you have someone else, to blame, when Life heads South on you.....driving your deference to whichever clerics, you choose....or, control-freaks, like Trumpy-The-Klown.

    You prefer the convenience of "absolutes", and can always count on "It must be The Lord's will.".....when you've tried & failed....rather-than admitting you're lazy; by nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Gee! Ain't Obama running the DEA these days? Oh! that's right it's Bush's fault, huh?
    Only if you prefer to discuss the flood of Heroin, into the U.S., as-opposed-to discussing kratom.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Shaman View Post


    No. You faith-based folks do very-little original thinking....preferring (instead) the benefit of being lead-around, so.....at the very-least.....you have someone else, to blame, when Life heads South on you.....driving your deference to whichever clerics, you choose....or, control-freaks, like Trumpy-The-Klown.

    You prefer the convenience of "absolutes", and can always count on "It must be The Lord's will.".....when you've tried & failed....rather-than admitting you're lazy; by nature.
    so, like the legion troll, you assumed a whole bunch of BS without bothering to remember who it is you're replying to.

    1) not a christian, hence 'faith based' is an assumption on your part.
    2) not a trump supporter, hence another assumption on your part.

    i guess you're full of fail today.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    New CDC protocols, as well as the DEA's desire to limit "diversion" (by going after pain management) -is driving patients to use UNKNOWN pain blockers-
    or go to street drugs.

    The DEA is a


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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    New CDC protocols, as well as the DEA's desire to limit "diversion" (by going after pain management) -is driving patients to use UNKNOWN pain blockers-
    or go to street drugs.

    The DEA is......
    ......Primarily concerned with job-$ecurity!!!!!

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