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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Gov't spending not consumer.
    Why it's factored as a positive in gdp I'll never understand.
    It's a negative and a huge one.
    really. by that measure all the Stimulus spending was "consumer" too? . That's nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    really. by that measure all the Stimulus spending was "consumer" too? . That's nuts.
    Think so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion Troll View Post
    Didn't less regulation lead to the crash?

    Did it? Are you going to sing the Glass Steagal hymnal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    How long can they keep rates this low? Money isn't free. Inflation will hit at some point
    They cannot and will not raise rates. They can't tell that they won't but they have ZERO intention of raising them.

    They don't worry about inflation because they just change the way it is calculated.

    Want proof? Look at Japan and other countries that have gone to negative interest rates and now are even buying corporate debt.

    Will it all come crashing down some day? Economics and logic dictate that it must. But who really knows.

    But you can bank on this, Yellin will ALWAYS have an excuse not to raise rates. You may not be able to take your money to the bank but you can take that to the bank

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    Leon is a troll/simpleton so to him all regulations are good and there are never enough. There's zero nuance and results don't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Leon is a troll/simpleton so to him all regulations are good and there are never enough. There's zero nuance and results don't matter.
    he's not alone in that thinking...
    I swear it's become Democratic mainstream "regs protect us" mindlessness at work.

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    1%-2% GDP growth is the new normal. We're actually doing better than Europe is, at least...
    "Do not think that I came to bring peace... I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." - Matthew 10:34

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    When in history have tax cuts ever had a positive effect on economic growth? Why do people buy that hook, line, and sinker when there's zero evidence for it? The GOP keeps cutting and cutting everywhere, and they get nothing for it. Just look at Kansas, a wreck. I'll take no tax cuts, thankyou very much. Don't destroy our economy by cutting taxes.
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    RAISE TAXES!

    REREGULATE!

    NATIONALIZE THE ENERGY INDUSTRY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    How long can they keep rates this low? Money isn't free. Inflation will hit at some point
    Japan has had interest late's around 0% for decades, and it hasn't had much inflation yet. This is the new normal of a modern economy. Low growth, low interests rates bumping up against 0%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I think a large part is due to the additional regulations that have been placed on the private sector that is inhibiting growth. (And before someone jumps in, as they inevitably will, and claim I want zero regulations, that is not what I'm saying and please don't come with that straw man.)

    Entrepreneurship, new businesses, is actually down in this country and that's where a majority of our growth comes from. Small banks are getting punished by Frank-Dodd and as such are lending less. Small businesses get most of their loans from smaller banks so you where this is going. Between the regulations Sarbenes-Oxley and Frank-Dodd have put on the private sector it's not surprising we are seeing less companies go public, especially these unicorns.

    America's private sector is the greatest growth engine in the world. There is a definite need for government here as they have to set the rules and enforce them but it's not gov't that's creating the jobs and leading economic growth. We need to unleash our greatest economic weapon, not suffocate it as we are now.
    Frank Dodd didn't go far enough. MORE REGULATION! WE NEVER NEED A REPEAT OF 2008! YOU GUYS LEAD US STRAIGHT BACK INTO THE GREAT DEPRESSION AGAIN! THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!
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    How long after you destroy our economy does it take the free market nutjobs to demand that we repeat all the same mistakes that lead us to destroying it in the first place? Out of control banks are the problem, not the solution!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oceanhawk View Post
    Frank Dodd didn't go far enough. MORE REGULATION! WE NEVER NEED A REPEAT OF 2008! YOU GUYS LEAD US STRAIGHT BACK INTO THE GREAT DEPRESSION AGAIN! THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!
    Good morning Water. Emo econonics kick ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oceanhawk View Post
    When in history have tax cuts ever had a positive effect on economic growth? Why do people buy that hook, line, and sinker when there's zero evidence for it? The GOP keeps cutting and cutting everywhere, and they get nothing for it. Just look at Kansas, a wreck. I'll take no tax cuts, thankyou very much. Don't destroy our economy by cutting taxes.
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