Innocent Guantanamo detainees freed after 14 years.

[PostmodernProphet]

If they were arrested without evidence then it was false arrests. Idiot.

they weren't "arrested" you simple minded twit.....they were captured......

[PostmodernProphet]

AUMF..please don't go down this Stupid Road. Or you can use CiC authority.

its the only road he travels.....

[PostmodernProphet]

so only american citizens have rights? all the other people around the world are pieces of property?

some of you are garbage.....

[christiefan915]

upon what do you base your opinion that they were "innocent"?....

I base it on the presumption of innocence, which is also regarded as an international human right under the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights, article 11.

This right is so important in modern democracies, constitutional monarchies and republics that many have explicitly included it in their legal codes and constitutions:

• The Universal Declaration of Human Rights, article 11, states: "Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.".
• The Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms of the Council of Europe says (art. 6.2): "Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law". This convention has been adopted by treaty and is binding on all Council of Europe members. Currently (and in any foreseeable expansion of the EU) every country member of the European Union is also member to the Council of Europe, so this stands for EU members as a matter of course. Nevertheless, this assertion is iterated verbatim in Article 48 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union.
• In Canada, section 11(d) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms states: "Any person charged with an offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law in a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal".
• In the Colombian constitution, Title II, Chapter 1, Article 29 states that "Every person is presumed innocent until proven guilty according to the law".
• In France, article 9 of the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen 1789, which has force as constitutional law, begins: "Any man being presumed innocent until he has been declared guilty ...". The Code of Criminal Procedure states in its preliminary article that "any person suspected or prosecuted is presumed innocent for as long as their guilt has not been established"^[15] and the jurors' oath repeats this assertion (article 304).^[28]
• In Iran, Article 37 of the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Iran states: "Innocence is to be presumed, and no one is to be held guilty of a charge unless his or her guilt has been established by a competent court".
• In Italy, the second paragraph of Article 27 of the Constitution states: "A defendant shall be considered not guilty until a final sentence has been passed."^[29]
• In Romania, article 23 of the Constitution states that "any person shall be presumed innocent until found guilty by a final decision of the court."
• The Constitution of Russia, in article 49, states that "Everyone charged with a crime shall be considered not guilty until his or her guilt has been proven in conformity with the federal law and has been established by the valid sentence of a court of law". It also states that "The defendant shall not be obliged to prove his or her innocence" and "Any reasonable doubt shall be interpreted in favor of the defendant".
• In the South African Constitution, section 35(3)(h) of the Bill of Rights states: "Every accused person has a right to a fair trial, which includes the right to be presumed innocent, to remain silent, and not to testify during the proceedings."
• Although the Constitution of the United States does not cite it explicitly, presumption of innocence is widely held to follow from the 5th, 6th, and 14th amendments. See also Coffin v. United States and In re Winship.
• In New Zealand, the New Zealand Bill of Rights 1990 provides inter alia at section 25 (c) "Everyone who is charged with an offence has, in relation to the determination of the charge, the following minimum rights: (c) the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law" ^[30]

[christiefan915]

lol.....you mean Obama didn't do anything in a criminal court so therefore they are innocent?......fucking liberals are so dense....

that's probably why liberals think illegal immigrants aren't illegal........because Obama didn't do anything about them........

Even Iran has the presumption of innocence written into its Constitution.

[anatta]

they weren't "arrested" you simple minded twit.....they were captured......

well that's it. . we STILL are not addressing what we're going to do - treat them as criminals, or as "enemy combatants".

Right now we just drone everybody.

[Rune]

lol.....you mean Obama didn't do anything in a criminal court so therefore they are innocent?......fucking liberals are so dense....

that's probably why liberals think illegal immigrants aren't illegal........because Obama didn't do anything about them........

Bush had them too shithead.

[PostmodernProphet]

I base it on the presumption of innocence, which is also regarded as an international human right under the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights, article 11.

This right is so important in modern democracies, constitutional monarchies and republics that many have explicitly included it in their legal codes and constitutions:

• The Universal Declaration of Human Rights, article 11, states: "Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.".
• The Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms of the Council of Europe says (art. 6.2): "Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law". This convention has been adopted by treaty and is binding on all Council of Europe members. Currently (and in any foreseeable expansion of the EU) every country member of the European Union is also member to the Council of Europe, so this stands for EU members as a matter of course. Nevertheless, this assertion is iterated verbatim in Article 48 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union.
• In Canada, section 11(d) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms states: "Any person charged with an offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law in a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal".
• In the Colombian constitution, Title II, Chapter 1, Article 29 states that "Every person is presumed innocent until proven guilty according to the law".
• In France, article 9 of the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen 1789, which has force as constitutional law, begins: "Any man being presumed innocent until he has been declared guilty ...". The Code of Criminal Procedure states in its preliminary article that "any person suspected or prosecuted is presumed innocent for as long as their guilt has not been established"^[15] and the jurors' oath repeats this assertion (article 304).^[28]
• In Iran, Article 37 of the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Iran states: "Innocence is to be presumed, and no one is to be held guilty of a charge unless his or her guilt has been established by a competent court".
• In Italy, the second paragraph of Article 27 of the Constitution states: "A defendant shall be considered not guilty until a final sentence has been passed."^[29]
• In Romania, article 23 of the Constitution states that "any person shall be presumed innocent until found guilty by a final decision of the court."
• The Constitution of Russia, in article 49, states that "Everyone charged with a crime shall be considered not guilty until his or her guilt has been proven in conformity with the federal law and has been established by the valid sentence of a court of law". It also states that "The defendant shall not be obliged to prove his or her innocence" and "Any reasonable doubt shall be interpreted in favor of the defendant".
• In the South African Constitution, section 35(3)(h) of the Bill of Rights states: "Every accused person has a right to a fair trial, which includes the right to be presumed innocent, to remain silent, and not to testify during the proceedings."
• Although the Constitution of the United States does not cite it explicitly, presumption of innocence is widely held to follow from the 5th, 6th, and 14th amendments. See also Coffin v. United States and In re Winship.
• In New Zealand, the New Zealand Bill of Rights 1990 provides inter alia at section 25 (c) "Everyone who is charged with an offence has, in relation to the determination of the charge, the following minimum rights: (c) the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law" ^[30]

you go ahead and presume all you want, Chrispy.....after all, you're the one who's gone insane and decided " the nation faces an unparalleled existential threat, at the nomination of a man who imperils the very rule of law"......you're the one who ought to be be locked up, for your own safety.......

[PostmodernProphet]

Even Iran has the presumption of innocence written into its Constitution.

they sort of fucked up all assumptions when they joined in the war......

[christiefan915]

you go ahead and presume all you want, Chrispy.....after all, you're the one who's gone insane and decided " the nation faces an unparalleled existential threat, at the nomination of a man who imperils the very rule of law"......you're the one who ought to be be locked up, for your own safety.......

Your totalitarianism has been noted.

[PostmodernProphet]

Bush had them too shithead.

and he kept them locked up where they belonged, as enemy combatants......particularly evil enemy combatants at that....... it was your shithead who decided to let them go......and now, as a result, airheads argue that they are "innocent"......

[PostmodernProphet]

Your totalitarianism has been noted.

your insanity has carried you over the limit.....you are in the deep end of the pool and don't know how to dog paddle.......

[christiefan915]

your insanity has carried you over the limit.....you are in the deep end of the pool and don't know how to dog paddle.......

A lawyer criticizing the presumption of innocence. Irony died tonight.

[Phantasmal]

A lawyer criticizing the presumption of innocence. Irony died tonight.

A Divinity degree and not knowing about Paul and Luke, hmmmmm

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Not all of then were so benign!!

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/616...nsation-payout

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Uhh, what is his offense? Seeking compensation for the torture your government put him through?