England secedes from EU. Why couldn't the South secede in 1861?

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The attack on Fort Sumner was technically the act of treason. Secession was simply a stupid decision whose implementation was possibly illegal, which was debated at the time, as now.

Fort Sumner is in New Mexico!!

[F_Donald_Weldon]

"England secedes from EU. Why couldn't the South secede in 1861?"

This fails as a false comparison fallacy.

[Minister of Truth]

Moronic traitors fail to understanding what the difference is between withdrawing from a legal framework and declaring independence from an overlord.

Put in American terms, secession is when a state removes itself from the Constitution (or group of counties remove themselves from a state), revolution is when a citizens militia marches on DC and destroys the Constitutional government (most likely resulting in a tyranny, such as the Reign of Terror).

[iolo]

The UK didn't 'secede' from the EU but votred to make use of an agreed treaty-right. England has no government, unless it secedes from the UK, which, since its bosses dominate and loot it, it is unlikely to do.

[philly rabbit]

A better question is, why did the Confederacy secede at all? Lincoln campaigned on keeping slavery out of the territories, not The South. Then, after secession, why did the Confederate Army attack Fort Sumter?

Because the southern states composed of twenty five percent of the population of the country and southerners were paying seventy five percent of the taxes and were being taxed without representation for that figure under Lincoln's administration.

And all that money was being used for northern infrastructure and none of it was being used in the south which was being used for the benefit of northern business as a cash cow for them.

[Stelakh]

Because the southern states composed of twenty five percent of the population of the country and southerners were paying seventy five percent of the taxes and were being taxed without representation for that figure under Lincoln's administration.

And all that money was being used for northern infrastructure and none of it was being used in the south which was being used for the benefit of northern business as a cash cow for them.

Um, no. Not according to the leaders of the Confederacy themselves, stupid.

We've been over this before. They fought the Civil War because they wanted to keep slavery. We have the Vice President of the traitorous Confederate States of America's own word on that.

Are you really and honestly as stupid as everything you say here, or are you just trolling?

I don't know that anyone anywhere on the face of the planet could actually be so intellectual bereft as you appear to be.

[Minister of Truth]

Also, if the south really wanted to end/reduce tariffs, they could have done so when the Dems controlled the national government for much of the 1830s through the 1850s.

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England is leaving the EU, the UK is and that includes Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Three is nothing that Wee Jimmy Krankie can do about it!!