Reply With QuoteThat's a lesson we can all learn. I'm definitely guilty of wasting water and electricity.Originally Posted by Thorn
Another suggestion was to try to divert the course of the object with powerful missiles; mathematical models were prepared and the feasibility of the project was under study. If the object has an orbit, the longterm effect of missile impact on the orbit would have to be considered -- what would be the consequences on all objects in the solar system, including Earth, ultimately, in altering that orbit?
I agree with all of you on the importance of reducing our contribution to greenhouse gases, and the many sound reasons, some political as well as environmental, for getting off oil. Just last night we saw a commercial for the new 2007 Chevy Avalanche, which apparently will be able to run on either gasoline or ethanol. Seems the technology is a lot closer than many of us thought!
We also have to educate ourselves far better and take more direct, personal action in the realm of conservation. The earth's resources are finite. Where I live was rated in the "red" (equivalent to the Sahara) in available water per capita. Recently our well went out and we had to rely to a very great extent on bottled water (and paper towels!) for over a month. I learned among other things just how much excess water I'd been using (and I'm one of the conservation adherents!), and how I can change the way I do things to use a lot less. This can apply to many aspects of our daily lives and shouldn't inconvenience us to any great extent at all.
That's a lesson we can all learn. I'm definitely guilty of wasting water and electricity.
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I waste a lot of stuff, but what the heck , shouldn't I get to waste my share ?
You don't have a "waste share"!
Is this your homework?
The low probability of a large impact is little consolation to me. Over a long period of time the probability of a mass extinction event becomes 100%. Also the probability of this extinction is the same at all point in time. Thus the probability that it will happen in 2055 is the same as 452055.
I happen to want the human race to survive and I suggest that we begin work on protecting our planet from such collisions immediately.
If we continue to have the attitude that "well it won't happen in my lifetime we will be saying that until we have a doomsday collision on the horizon.
A stitch in time saves nine.
sure I do if I can pay for it in a capitalist society. Our current economy mostly exists on waste. Frugal or even reasonable spending would put us in a deep recession.You don't have a "waste share"!
I totally agree. My point was simply that worrying about one's own, personal safety in this context is kind of silly. It's a problem that requires thought and planning, not hysteria and desperate half-measures.
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There are no known near earth objects that are a immediate threat at this time. There are people working on plans of what to do if one is spotted, but they are not many. The best to hope for being able to set of nukes near the object to nudge it away from a collision. Big ships with engines to move a huge asteroid are not available and would take a lot more years to build and test then we could afford.
Global warming from oil is a myth. Any warming going on is from natural means. Like the sun.
Any real threat of extinction would come from a super-volcano. Of course no one wants to hear that cause it can't be controled or stopped and can't be blamed on the evil republicans.
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I'm more fearful of what the global elites will do to mankind.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...assculling.htm
Top Scientist Advocates Mass Culling 90% Of Human Population
Fellow professors and scientists applause and roar approval at elite's twisted and genocidal population control agenda
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com * April 3 2006
A top scientist gave a speech to the Texas Academy of Science last month in which he advocated the need to exterminate 90% of the population through the airborne ebola virus. Dr. Eric R. Pianka's chilling comments, and their enthusiastic reception again underscore the elite's agenda to enact horrifying measures of population control.
Pianka's speech was ordered to be kept off the record before it began as cameras were turned away and hundreds of students, scientists and professors sat in attendance.
Saying the public was not ready to hear the information presented, Pianka began by exclaiming, “We're no better than bacteria!â€, as he jumped into a doomsday malthusian rant about overpopulation destroying the earth.
Standing in front of a slide of human skulls, Pianka gleefully advocated airborne ebola as his preferred method of exterminating the necessary 90% of humans, choosing it over AIDS because of its faster kill period. Ebola victims suffer the most tortuous deaths imaginable as the virus kills by liquefying the internal organs. The body literally dissolves as the victim writhes in pain bleeding from every orifice.
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"Men think in herds, go mad in herds, but recover their senses one by one." -- Charles Mackay
"AssHat rocks and is fun to have around." -- Damocles
Bit extreme to deal with a very real problem of overpopulation.
Humans have no natural predators, competition for resources isn't limiting numbers and medical research is removing (gradually) the problem of disease.
We need population control, but culling the majority of the people on Earth is extreme.
Ref the 'global elite'. Is this 'global elite' an organised entity?
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No we don't. I say instead of empowering an elite and giving them the power of life and death over the species, we deal with the problems the elite allege as they occur instead of preempitively choosing death. there is so much uncultivated land all over the world. and after that, there is hydroponics. All posited shortages are false; they are merely lies the elite use to give themselve the ability to play god.
Morality is a set of attitudes and behaviors which facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships. --AssHatZombie
"Men think in herds, go mad in herds, but recover their senses one by one." -- Charles Mackay
"AssHat rocks and is fun to have around." -- Damocles
Food shortages have thus far only been money shortages in certain areas to buy food with.
But as the population grows....
Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
Proving tax cuts work!
Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.
You and your 'elites'....lol You talk some crap....
You intend to cultivate all available land as the population continues to expand? Ever heard of eco-systems, or are they just a conspiracy of the elite?
And the organisation that would be required to set-up a hydroponic system that will feed the world would require global organisation. To run hydroponics, you would also need to use vast quantities of scarce resources such as water and fuel.
Ever grown weed by hydroponics? The water and electricity bills are phenomenal. Is that a conspiracy by the global elite?
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Yes.
Other plants and animals are what we cultivate when we cultivate, so we will be adding to eco-systems, and creating new ones.
Ever heard of eco-systems, or are they just a conspiracy of the elite?
No it wouldn't. I think all individuals should be taught all agricultural techniques, so we are not dependant on a centralized structure. your belief that all things must be centralized is and indicator of your brainwashedness.
And the organisation that would be required to set-up a hydroponic system that will feed the world would require global organisation.
Not necessarily.
To run hydroponics, you would also need to use vast quantities of scarce resources such as water and fuel.
that's because it has to be indoors and out of sight.
Ever grown weed by hydroponics? The water and electricity bill is phenomenal.
a hydro setup could be outdoors, if the crop were not illegal.
The future doesn't have to be what you want it to be. And humanity is not necessarily an enemy of nature. Gaiea loves mankind.
Morality is a set of attitudes and behaviors which facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships. --AssHatZombie
"Men think in herds, go mad in herds, but recover their senses one by one." -- Charles Mackay
"AssHat rocks and is fun to have around." -- Damocles
Gaiea has a hollow belly and Abraham and fairies are walking upside down in there
Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
Proving tax cuts work!
Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.
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