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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppedLiver View Post
    Do you believe that requiring an ID to vote disenfranchises some people?

    And I mean in a way OTHER than them just not having and/or are not willing to show an ID.
    Requiring a specific type of ID to vote deinfrancises some voters, the requiring proof of ID does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Requiring a specific type of ID to vote deinfrancises some voters, the requiring proof of ID does not.
    so, as long as its any type of official photo ID you're okay with it?......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Requiring a specific type of ID to vote deinfrancises some voters, the requiring proof of ID does not.
    Why don't you just say what you mean about who those voters are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    so, as long as its any type of official photo ID you're okay with it?......
    Requiring a photo ID would deinfrancises voters. My voter ID card has no photo, but I use it to vote.

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    They are starting next year to mail ballots for municipal elections, apparently the local officials aren't concerned about photo IDs. I think this is the way a lot of the voting will be handled in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Why don't you just say what you mean about who those voters are?
    The elderly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    The hard right don't like Trump the mushy middle won't like Cruz (too religious).
    The hard left don't like hrc the mushy middle don't like her either.
    If it's hrc v Cruz it's close and no body is happy.
    If it's hrc v Trump it's less close but Trump
    If it's Bernie v Cruz it's close but probably Cruz
    If it's Bernie v Trump it's not close and Trump

    Or BO declares martial law and we.have a whole new ballgame. Which is to say anything can and probably will happen.

    Whoever wins they will be one termers. Nobody will survive the next economic meltdown. Why do you think nobody worth a damn is running ?
    Can you not read? Trump loses to anyone by double digits. Despite winning every poll, I can see Bernie losing to a legitimate candidate (such as Cruz or Kasich) because he is a socialist, and many people will refuse to support him that would otherwise support Hillary...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Requiring a photo ID would deinfrancises voters. My voter ID card has no photo, but I use it to vote.
    How do those checking it know it's you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    The elderly
    Define elderly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Requiring a photo ID would deinfrancises voters. My voter ID card has no photo, but I use it to vote.
    why would a photo ID disenfranchise any voter.......unless of course the "voter" didn't look anything like the person registered to vote.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    The elderly
    there's a law against taking a photo of an old person?.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pauper View Post
    Can you not read? Trump loses to anyone by double digits. Despite winning every poll, I can see Bernie losing to a legitimate candidate (such as Cruz or Kasich) because he is a socialist, and many people will refuse to support him that would otherwise support Hillary...
    You think polls in April mean anything ?
    And as has already been demonstrated, polling has not sorted out how to poll with the wild card that Trump is.
    "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
    The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.

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    On the voter ID issue, I am fine with requiring an ID, but they need to make it very easy to get one.

    To many of us it seems very easy to get a state issued ID, but since the Patriot Act it has become harder and some people, mostly very poor people, its not easy. I know this from my days as a Prosecutor and Defense Attorney. People get arrested for driving without a DL, then have a very hard time getting the documents together to get a DL. Now, it is easier to get a photo ID than a DL, but they still require certain documentation that many poor people don't have and cant figure out how to get.

    Because there is not a real issue with voter fraud in this country, I find it suspicious that the Republicans keep pushing this issue. Why would they push this so hard when voter fraud is not a problem?

    The only case of voter fraud I have ever heard of was regarding Ann Coulter when she tried to vote in the wrong precent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    You think polls in April mean anything ?
    And as has already been demonstrated, polling has not sorted out how to poll with the wild card that Trump is.
    Sure they mean something, not near as much as polls in October, but yes they mean something.

    Why do you think the campaigns pay millions for private numbers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Sure they mean something, not near as much as polls in October, but yes they mean something.

    Why do you think the campaigns pay millions for private numbers?
    Targetting to drive actions. High level ones for public consumption are cheap content for media.
    "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
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