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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Cruz isn't a conservative. Kasich is a conservative. Cruz is a reactionary and an extremist who, thank God, has no chance of winning a general. Say what you want to about Trump but he has built a broad coalition. Ted Cruz has not.
    Kasich is a moderate, big time. But I'll gladly take him over Hillary. That you would call Kasich a conservative is evidence of how far the electorate has lurched to the left. As if we need more evidence beyond Crazy Bernie's success lol.

    I agree on Cruz' electability problem though. The media loves to destroy evangelicals and they're good at it. They will have Cruz resuscitating the Crusades and the Inquisition if he gains Traction on Trump.

    Trump would very likely be a moderate president---people are beginning to see this which is why his collation is broader than anyone running. His biggest problem is going to be surviving the convention. If he doesn't get it on the first vote, he's probably not going to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Hussein Omar View Post
    Kasich is a moderate, big time. But I'll gladly take him over Hillary. That you would call Kasich a conservative is evidence of how far the electorate has lurched to the left. As if we need more evidence beyond Crazy Bernie's success lol.

    I agree on Cruz' electability problem though. The media loves to destroy evangelicals and they're good at it. They will have Cruz resuscitating the Crusades and the Inquisition if he gains Traction on Trump.

    Trump would very likely be a moderate president---people are beginning to see this which is why his collation is broader than anyone running. His biggest problem is going to be surviving the convention. If he doesn't get it on the first vote, he's probably not going to.
    Kasich is in no way shape or form a moderate. You don't know much about Kasich at all if you think he's a moderate. Now compared to a far right wing extremist like Cruz he may appear moderate but hell so would Attalah the Hun.

    You need to go review Kasichs record. A few compromises for the public good hardly makes him a moderate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Hussein Omar View Post
    Kasich is a moderate, big time. But I'll gladly take him over Hillary. That you would call Kasich a conservative is evidence of how far the electorate has lurched to the left. As if we need more evidence beyond Crazy Bernie's success lol.

    I agree on Cruz' electability problem though. The media loves to destroy evangelicals and they're good at it. They will have Cruz resuscitating the Crusades and the Inquisition if he gains Traction on Trump.

    Trump would very likely be a moderate president---people are beginning to see this which is why his collation is broader than anyone running. His biggest problem is going to be surviving the convention. If he doesn't get it on the first vote, he's probably not going to.
    I'd be REALLY curious where you think he's a moderate - which policies or positions.

    In no way, shape or form is Kasich a moderate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    I'd be REALLY curious where you think he's a moderate - which policies or positions.

    In no way, shape or form is Kasich a moderate.
    We're talking about a political spectrum where one position is relative to another and Kasich has been billed as the conservative liberals can love. Or at least that's what I've been hearing for about 6 months now. Did the writers at Slate change their minds lol?

    But since it's all relative, if Kasich is a conservative, what is Cruz? Attila the Hun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Hussein Omar View Post
    We're talking about a political spectrum where one position is relative to another and Kasich has been billed as the conservative liberals can love. Or at least that's what I've been hearing for about 6 months now. Did the writers at Slate change their minds lol?

    But since it's all relative, if Kasich is a conservative, what is Cruz? Attila the Hun?
    So, you're just going by the media's billing?

    His policy positions are extremely conservative. Kasich is not a moderate. I like him because he's an intelligent person and authentic, but he's not a moderate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pauper View Post
    If we lose either way, I'd rather lose with a Republican. Cruz or Kasich I can root for.
    I don't think you lose with Kasich.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Konono View Post
    Trump's loud mouthed bullying and disrespect for women have already hurt USA's national image and he isn't even president. As far as I know, no one cares what Cruz's thinks or says.
    They would care if he were the Republican nominee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granule View Post
    But both are so much better than the two old white fossils the party of diversity dug up.
    You mean the Jewish man and the woman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    I couldn't disagree more. Trump is just a cynical opportunist who may be in over his head. Cruz is a dangerous far right wing reactionary who is intransigent, ideologically rigid, has the fanatics absolutist belief in his cause and would guarantee to do at a national level what Jhindahl and Brownbeck have done at a State level in gaurenteeing failed government.

    Cruz would probably have us involved in another ill advised and immoral war within six months of taking office.

    Trump would certainly be bad news be he's not as remotely dangerous as a fanatic like Cruz is.
    I think any Congress would throttle Trump very quickly, dragging him back at every step. If you think the Republicans tried to hold Obama back, you haven't seen anything yet compared to what the next Congress would do to a president Trump.

    My fear is that a Republican Congress would not hold a fanatic like Cruz back because he is an actual Conservative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    So, you're just going by the media's billing?

    His policy positions are extremely conservative. Kasich is not a moderate. I like him because he's an intelligent person and authentic, but he's not a moderate.
    Yes. He wants "boots on the ground" in Syria.
    That's hardly moderate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I think any Congress would throttle Trump very quickly, dragging him back at every step. If you think the Republicans tried to hold Obama back, you haven't seen anything yet compared to what the next Congress would do to a president Trump.

    My fear is that a Republican Congress would not hold a fanatic like Cruz back because he is an actual Conservative.
    See, this is what I'm talking about. When did conservative=fanatic happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Hussein Omar View Post
    See, this is what I'm talking about. When did conservative=fanatic happen?

    Was it part of the fundamental transformation?
    Not all Conservatives are fanatic, but some fanatic's are Conservative. Get it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Hussein Omar View Post
    See, this is what I'm talking about. When did conservative=fanatic happen?
    When they started voting for the likes of Cruz.
    He is insane.
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