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    Quote Originally Posted by Milagro View Post
    Well I can see a few practical difficulties not least the fact that it would have to be in a geosynchronous orbit above the equator.
    Don't many countries already have satellites in geosynchronous orbit and even though previous satellites have been over the equator; isn't it possible to place them say over the US what with all the advancements that have been made?
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    Renewables are like 13 percent of electricity production now.
    Hardly useless, just not worth googles time

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Don't many countries already have satellites in geosynchronous orbit and even though previous satellites have been over the equator; isn't it possible to place them say over the US what with all the advancements that have been made?
    The whole point here is that you would need the satellite to be stationary with respect to the Earth's rotation otherwise how could you collect the microwave radiation at an Earth receiving station?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Renewables are like 13 percent of electricity production now.
    Hardly useless, just not worth googles time
    Let's break that down some more!!

    In 2015, the United States generated about 4 trillion kilowatthours of electricity.1 About 67% of the electricity generated was from fossil fuels (coal, natural gas, and petroleum).

    Major energy sources and percent share of total U.S. electricity generation in 2015:


    • Coal = 33%
    • Natural gas = 33%
    • Nuclear = 20%
    • Hydropower = 6%
    • Other renewables = 7%
      • Biomass = 1.6%
      • Geothermal = 0.4%
      • Solar = 0.6%
      • Wind = 4.7%

    • Petroleum = 1%
    • Other gases =< 1%


    http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=427&t=3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milagro View Post
    Let's break that down some more!!

    In 2015, the United States generated about 4 trillion kilowatthours of electricity.1 About 67% of the electricity generated was from fossil fuels (coal, natural gas, and petroleum).

    Major energy sources and percent share of total U.S. electricity generation in 2015:


    • Coal = 33%
    • Natural gas = 33%
    • Nuclear = 20%
    • Hydropower = 6%
    • Other renewables = 7%
      • Biomass = 1.6%
      • Geothermal = 0.4%
      • Solar = 0.6%
      • Wind = 4.7%

    • Petroleum = 1%
    • Other gases =< 1%


    http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=427&t=3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milagro View Post
    The whole point here is that you would need the satellite to be stationary with respect to the Earth's rotation otherwise how could you collect the microwave radiation at an Earth receiving station?
    Keep it in a spot, directly above the collection base.
    Where's the difficulty?

    Another option is to due it in bursts, when the alignment is met.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Keep it in a spot, directly above the collection base.
    Where's the difficulty?

    Another option is to due it in bursts, when the alignment is met.
    Well the USA is not on the Equator for a start and there would issues with attenuation of the microwave radiation over 23,000 miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milagro View Post
    Well the USA is not on the Equator for a start and there would issues with attenuation of the microwave radiation over 23,000 miles.
    Building your strawman early, aren't you; because I never suggested that the US was on the Equator.
    So you're saying that aligning a satellite directly over anywhere, except the equator, is impossible?

    And even if it is directly over the equator, why can't the transmission dish be pointed at a collector within the boundaries of the US?
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Building your strawman early, aren't you; because I never suggested that the US was on the Equator.
    So you're saying that aligning a satellite directly over anywhere, except the equator, is impossible?

    And even if it is directly over the equator, why can't the transmission dish be pointed at a collector within the boundaries of the US?
    A satellite in a circular orbit with a period of 24 hours is termed geosynchronous. It's geostationary only if the plane of its orbit is coincident with the Equator. If not then it will appear from the ground to move up and down across the equator (and back and forth a little, in a vertical figure 8) during the course of a day, and so it won't be stationary with respect to the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milagro View Post
    A satellite in a circular orbit with a period of 24 hours is termed geosynchronous. It's geostationary only if the plane of its orbit is coincident with the Equator. If not then it will appear from the ground to move up and down across the equator (and back and forth a little, in a vertical figure 8) during the course of a day, and so it won't be stationary with respect to the ground.
    I don't care how it appears from the ground.

    Now that you've been able to derail the OP, to your own agenda; would you care to address what the thread was about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    I don't care how it appears from the ground.

    Now that you've been able to derail the OP, to your own agenda; would you care to address what the thread was about?
    I am not saying it is impossible just trying to tell you what the practical difficulties are, maybe this will explain it better?

    http://global.jaxa.jp/article/interv...3/index_e.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milagro View Post
    I am not saying it is impossible just trying to tell you what the practical difficulties are, maybe this will explain it better?

    http://global.jaxa.jp/article/interv...3/index_e.html
    Honestly; it appears that since the disagreements you've had, over "global warming" and the best way to provide electricity, that you just feel a need to show your intelligence in anything.
    The thread was started to discuss a plan, that the US once had, to provide power through micro-waves and you wanted to turn it into a discussion about orbit feasibility.

    Never mind, carry on.
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    Read something moron
    Nobody on this forum invest more in oil than I do.
    You fossils are going to make me a lot of money with your ignorance.
    You be the Grand Wizard of finance. You probably have a higher net worth than everyone on JPP combined

    I can't believe nobody has ever asked you to write a financial blog.

    I mean holy fuck. You get 20% returns in every market every year. You put Buffett to shame

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    You be the Grand Wizard of finance. You probably have a higher net worth than everyone on JPP combined

    I can't believe nobody has ever asked you to write a financial blog.

    I mean holy fuck. You get 20% returns in every market every year. You put Buffett to shame
    Jealous much
    No I just make double your slum real estate returns

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Honestly; it appears that since the disagreements you've had, over "global warming" and the best way to provide electricity, that you just feel a need to show your intelligence in anything.
    The thread was started to discuss a plan, that the US once had, to provide power through micro-waves and you wanted to turn it into a discussion about orbit feasibility.

    Never mind, carry on.
    I can't understand why you are getting so upset?

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