Think Socialism is so great?

[iolo]

So socialism is control by the working people nowhere on earth, right? Where has control by the working people EVER been established and been successful on earth? Oh! I bet I know! Nowhere ever! Know why? Of course you don't! Here's a clue! "because it's totally contrary to human nature and authoritarian slobs like Joseph Stalin." and billions like him

Because, as in the Commune and forever after, those who tried to establish democracy were murdered by your friends. What do pigs know of human nature?

[iolo]

The only reason the UK survives today is because capitalism has survived the insanity of socialist idiots.

The UK, as you know, is fucked.

[evince]

capitalism is part of the answer


the world would be fucked without it


well fettered capitalism and democracy

[CFM]

I support Sanders, I don't think a purely Danish or Swedish style Socialist government would work in the United States, but I do think we need to mix in some socialist components to our society to try to even our the troubling trend of the wealthiest families owning so much of the opportunity in our nation. There are specific things that can allow a society to become more generationally mobile between economic classes and access to high quality education is one of them. If we can allow less financially well off individuals to go to College without burdening them for 35 years of student debt that would for example, go a long way toward helping the problem. Healthcare is another one of those areas where universal access will help to allow the hard working to rise to the top of the economic ladder while the less hardworking will slip.

What's troubling about people keeping what they've earned?

If you want the kid of someone in a less than favorable financial situation to go to college, pay their tuition out of your pocket. If someone's own kid isn't worth them investing in, the little bastard is not a good enough investment for me.

Same with healthcare. If you know of someone without coverage, pay their premium. If they aren't willing to do for themselves on something like that, do without.