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    evil doesn't exist. the universe doesn't care about our so-called 'moral codes'

    it's a scientific fact, a young baby is hardly self aware, the brain is still connecting neurons, you can't even form memories or have a sense of self until you are like 4 years old.

    killing a little baby is no less morally harmful than killing a monkey or a pig. In fact, killing a pig is probably 'more evil' than killing a 11 month year old any day.


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    look at those retards


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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    when you masturbate you are killing millions of living things. same thing when you squish ants. maybe both these happen at the same time.

    I am well aware it has the DNA of a human, but that is completely meaningless. I can flake a skin cell off of me that has my DNA. It's not sentient, not self aware, it's nothing.

    Fetus's are not human in any meaningful sense of the word, and if you want to be pedantic you can say it is not a person, not sentient, not a conscious being capable of knowing what the fuck is going on. It's less intelligent or aware than a fruitfly or an amoeba.

    The fact that it will one day be something else is completely meaningless to me. An acorn is not a tree.

    Also just so we are being intellectually honest with each other, I do feel there is a strong moral argument one could make for killing children under the age of 2. Maybe even stretch it to 3.
    Sperm cells aren't living beings whereas a human embryo is a living human being. You were never a sperm and a sperm will never be anything but a sperm, since it ceases to exist at the moment of conception. Human beings begin to exist at the moment of conception.

    As a matter of science.

    Religion only puts a kind of moral veneer on it: its only contribution is that unjustly killing humans constitutes murder based on the Ten Commandments.

    The dirty little irony is that the pro-abortion argument is decidedly unscientific. In fact, it's irrational and would be deemed as such but for the fact abortion must remain legal. Arbitrarily designating that life begins at 2 years of age is the sort of thing that arises out of irrational thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Hussein Omar View Post
    Sperm cells aren't living beings
    yes it is. A cell is alive.

    whereas a human embryo is a living human being.
    debatable. There is no universal definition of what a "human being" is.

    Again, every cell in my body has my DNA, that doesn't make my skin cells a human being. What we ultimately define our sense of self by is our brain, and our cognition, our ability to reason, think, and the emergent property of consciousness. Without those things, we are sacks of meat and nothing more.

    The dirty little irony is that the pro-abortion argument is decidedly unscientific. In fact, it's irrational and would be deemed as such but for the fact abortion must remain legal. Arbitrarily designating that life begins at 2 years of age is the sort of thing that arises out of irrational thinking.
    I am not arguing an embryo isn't alive. I am not arguing life begins at 2 years old. Try and keep up dumbass. I am talking about sentient life, self awareness.


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    A sperm is living organism, but it is not a human being. Self awareness is as simple as "I cry and someone tends to me" it's the same kind of sub conscience self awareness that is innate to being alive. But as to sentinence in-utero, the ability to feel and react to pain begins at 18 weeks.

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    a baby dies not need to be killed for any logical reason.


    a zygote inhabits a human body.


    the person who owns that body has control over what goes on inside that body

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    trash
    pretty sure you didnt watch it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    a baby dies not need to be killed for any logical reason.
    population contol

    finances

    you don't like it

    it smells, it's noisy

    target practice


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    I respect Rubio's position. If you believe abortion is murder... its the only consistent position one can take.

    However, it will play out very badly for him in the general. If he holds to that position HRC will trounce him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    So what are you waiting for?

    Oh yeah, you sure do LOVE to TALK a big game, how bout just this once you back it up with some action?

    You think the poor should die?

    Then get out there and start killing.
    I notice that you didn't even bother to refute his comments about snowden being a traitor, happy being spied upon, living under a microscope, and sucking the governments cock. is that because you enjoy being the serf and demand others be so controlled and regulated to make you feel safer? better about your underachiever status? more comfortable about your lack of courage and principles?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I respect Rubio's position. If you believe abortion is murder... its the only consistent position one can take.

    However, it will play out very badly for him in the general. If he holds to that position HRC will trounce him.
    he is lying about It anyway



    most of them don't believe it themselves


    they just lie for votes

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