Is It Time To Take Up Arms?

[MAGA MAN]

No revolution
Most gun nuts are pussies

All ex-wrestlers are homos

[iolo]

just who do you think are the 'masters'?

Your masters, the rich. Lick on!

[iolo]

Maybe he's referring to leaders past. At least that's what I seem to get from his postings. That the leaders at the time of Lenin and maybe others like him were noble, wanting nothing more than the common good and that the leaders of the US that opposed them were "mass murderers."

Whose arse are you pretending is an icecream, child? That's the chap! Jesus, you weirdoes really are vomit!

[SmarterthanYou]

Your masters, the rich. Lick on!

:youdontsay:

[J Craft]

Your masters are mass murderers, as you know. Lenin was fighting a war against them, as you know. Capitalism is the robbery of working people, however your masters organise it, as you also know know. When did you poor buggers ever have an idea to put forward rather than shouting 'Yah!' at presumed groups? Pathetic buggers!

Lenin was not fighting a war, he was engaged in a revolution against his country. History understands his role quite clearly.

We all to one degree or another have masters. What our founders attempted was a government that allowed the least corrupting avenue towards independent freedoms. A government that allowed a person to be as successful as his labors afforded him. This system offered the have nots the best opportunities towards personal success.

Bitter Shills such as yourself either from ignorance or stubbornness, refuse to understand what capitalism lawfully constrained actually is. Crony Capitalsm is a monster, though not the monster of Lenin, it does crush the middle class, while doing nothing to lift up the poor. In that way it is every bit as wicked as communism.

[iolo]

Lenin was not fighting a war, he was engaged in a revolution against his country. History understands his role quite clearly.

We all to one degree or another have masters. What our founders attempted was a government that allowed the least corrupting avenue towards independent freedoms. A government that allowed a person to be as successful as his labors afforded him. This system offered the have nots the best opportunities towards personal success.

Bitter Shills such as yourself either from ignorance or stubbornness, refuse to understand what capitalism lawfully constrained actually is. Crony Capitalsm is a monster, though not the monster of Lenin, it does crush the middle class, while doing nothing to lift up the poor. In that way it is every bit as wicked as communism.

He was, as you know, engaged in a revolution against a monarch with vastly less support than the George 111 you betrayed. You grovel to your masters, however, because you are conformist cowards. Enjoy! Capitalism, as you know, is never lawfully constrained: it tells you to eat shit, and you tug your forelocks while you do.

[J Craft]

He was, as you know, engaged in a revolution against a monarch with vastly less support than the George 111 you betrayed. You grovel to your masters, however, because you are conformist cowards. Enjoy! Capitalism, as you know, is never lawfully constrained: it tells you to eat shit, and you tug your forelocks while you do.

Actually, it was nothing like the Ametican Revolution. Lenin wished to empower, and succeeded, in empowering a few elite. The American Revolution was fought to free people from the tyranny of a few and to empower the individual.

Capitalism can be, and for the most part has been, lawfully constrained. Now we see the political class making back room deals with their special pet capitalists. Again this is Crony Capitalism AKA the step sister to fascism. It is facilitated by idiot voters who want to be led astray into faux issues and thereby divided against one another. This has also been called wagging the dog.

[Minister of Truth]

Iola's masters are aristocrats.

WE WIN!

[Minister of Truth]

He was, as you know, engaged in a revolution against a monarch with vastly less support than the George 111 you betrayed. You grovel to your masters, however, because you are conformist cowards. Enjoy! Capitalism, as you know, is never lawfully constrained: it tells you to eat shit, and you tug your forelocks while you do.

Lenin didn't overthrow the Russian monarchy. He overthrew the short-lived republic of the March revolution. Lenin overthrew the government of the hero Alexander Kerensky.

[Uncle Charley]

Harry Reid should be taken for a ride down to the river.

[leaningright]

Whose $&@$ are you pretending is an icecream, child? That's the chap! Jesus, you weirdoes really are vomit!

Wow, thanks. I've never been called vomit before. This is a first. But I am still not sure who you would be referring to as my "masters." I have a boss at work. He has a boss and that guy answers to a board, who answers to the government of the state of Oklahoma. I'm sure most people's job follows a similar hierarchy. I know of very few self made, I'm my own boss type of people. If you think I worship those who are rich or high up government figures you are mistaken.

[I include this next paragraph only because I think I recall that you believe in socialism. If I'm mistaken let me apologize in advance]

I do know a lot of folks who are dependent on people like me who get up and go to work every day. I do not begrudge those who need any government assistance and would argue that they deserve it. You know, those who are elderly or disabled in body or mind, unemployed fir a period of time, etc. But I loathe those who are able bodied and lazy. Those who think they shouldn't have to work at all but should receive the fruits of other's labor. And yes, they are here...and everywhere social programs are. I must say that I applaud inwardly when these are exposed and they have to go to work. And this is where socialism always leads, IMO. What do you do when all want to be the parasite instead of the host?

[christiefan915]

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I do know a lot of folks who are dependent on people like me who get up and go to work every day. I do not begrudge those who need any government assistance and would argue that they deserve it. You know, those who are elderly or disabled in body or mind, unemployed fir a period of time, etc. But I loathe those who are able bodied and lazy. Those who think they shouldn't have to work at all but should receive the fruits of other's labor. And yes, they are here...and everywhere social programs are. I must say that I applaud inwardly when these are exposed and they have to go to work. And this is where socialism always leads, IMO. What do you do when all want to be the parasite instead of the host?

^ I'm not too sure about this. Here are (according to one source) the top ten most socialist countries and with the exception of China, the rest seem to be doing pretty well under the system.

Below, you will see some of the most socialistic nations in the world today:

• China
• Denmark
• Finland
• Netherlands
• Canada
• Sweden
• Norway
• Ireland
• New Zealand
• Belgium

[MAGA MAN]

^ I'm not too sure about this. Here are (according to one source) the top ten most socialist countries and with the exception of China, the rest seem to be doing pretty well under the system.

Below, you will see some of the most socialistic nations in the world today:

• China
• Denmark
• Finland
• Netherlands
• Canada
• Sweden
• Norway
• Ireland
• New Zealand
• Belgium

y dont u move there

[leaningright]

^ I'm not too sure about this. Here are (according to one source) the top ten most socialist countries and with the exception of China, the rest seem to be doing pretty well under the system.

Below, you will see some of the most socialistic nations in the world today:

• China
• Denmark
• Finland
• Netherlands
• Canada
• Sweden
• Norway
• Ireland
• New Zealand
• Belgium

Ahhhhh, but are the subjects really free in those countries. I really don't think so. And to the original point, free loaders, the only one I have first hand info on is the Netherlands and they indeed do have their fair share and there is quite a bit of resentment building among the working class.

Most know that I'm not for unfettered, untaxed capitalism. But I just can't get my head around full blown socialism. In my mind it just won't work for long.

[putsometrebleinit]

^ I'm not too sure about this. Here are (according to one source) the top ten most socialist countries and with the exception of China, the rest seem to be doing pretty well under the system.

Below, you will see some of the most socialistic nations in the world today:

• China
• Denmark
• Finland
• Netherlands
• Canada
• Sweden
• Norway
• Ireland
• New Zealand
• Belgium

Ahhhh the good ole Scandinavian socialist model argument. I think that it would be better to say that they do well despite socialism, not because of it. High taxes and an extensive welfare state don't exactly make them socialist. The Scandinavian countries have just as much, if not more market freedom than we do in the United States with very similar government spending with regards to the GDP.

When you look at their average gross and net incomes they all fall short of the US as well. And since there is a big difference in the population of the United States and these nations it would do better to compare individual states with these countries, and the Scandinavian countries would rank among the poorest States if they were a part of the United States when looking at per capita GDP.

Another factor that comes into play is the demographics of the countries. The Scandinavian nations have a highly homogenous population compared to the United States and there have been plenty of studies supporting the fact that high immigration rates have an effect on poverty rates.

And it will be interesting to see how these countries fare when the declining working population finally hits bottom because Denmark is already facing issues with that as well as some of those other countries you listed.

And if welfare produced prosperity then we should have no issues with poverty at all considering the trillions of dollars spent since the war on poverty started but the fact is that poverty has remained relatively flat while welfare spending has risen. The answer is to stimulate economic growth with a truly free market rather than let the government have its hand in everything and tax us to death.