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    Quote Originally Posted by ib1yysguy View Post
    What does that have to do with teaching kids that their whacky religious beliefs are not going to be entertained when it comes to the origins of the earth and the development of life?

    This notion that creationism is to be respected as a legitimate viewpoint needs to go away. Anyone who even hints at the fact that they believe creationism or that the world is 10,000 years old is anywhere near a possibility should be thrown in a pit of rattle snakes.
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    creationism is just one more attempt by the religious fanatics to inject religion into public schools

    so far it is failing to accomplish this

    ignore facts at your own peril because reality will win and those that ignore facts will get the boot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    Yeah, thanks for taking care of Vietnam for me. I guess now I have to be punished for saying these things. Land of the free after all. Anyone who doesn't like it just needs to be disposed of.

    We have more freedoms than anyone in the world, except for the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Britian, Germany, Norway, Luxembourg, Monaco, Japan, South Korean, Taiwanese... and about thirty others. Gosh, you guys did so much for us, like destroy everything that the founders erronously wanted to include in our nation.

    We're still the most free. Maybe you're equating public handouts with freedom?

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    "Most free" is an unprovable claim.

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    OH BUT THE JOOO!!!

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    Interesting post. I often wonder if those who do not believe in evolution or our biological nature ever see themselves naked? This is a divisive subject so long as there are lots of people who feel strongly about one issue; they often vote or don't vote based on that single item. Scary thing for a democracy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diuretic View Post
    "Most free" is an unprovable claim.
    No. We're most free. It's an obvious fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    No. We're most free. It's an obvious fact.
    Okay I'll bite. On what grounds is it "an obvious fact"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diuretic View Post
    Okay I'll bite. On what grounds is it "an obvious fact"?
    Which country has MORE rights to expression and ownership?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Which country has MORE rights to expression and ownership?
    Do you want to go through them all? Or did I fuck you up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diuretic View Post
    Do you want to go through them all? Or did I fuck you up?
    Start with one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Start with one.
    Why? Are we going to count them all and decide on the numbers at the end?

    Are we now going to descend into childishness?

    My point was that your claim "most free" is unprovable despite your contention that it's an "obvious fact". If it was "an obvious fact" you would be presenting some evidence for your claim instead of making further, unprovable claims such as "Which country has MORE rights to expression and ownership". Again, just unprovable and hyperbole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ib1yysguy View Post
    What does that have to do with teaching kids that their whacky religious beliefs are not going to be entertained when it comes to the origins of the earth and the development of life?

    This notion that creationism is to be respected as a legitimate viewpoint needs to go away. Anyone who even hints at the fact that they believe creationism or that the world is 10,000 years old is anywhere near a possibility should be thrown in a pit of rattle snakes.
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    things like creationism as just a symtom of what is wrong with a democracy

    if enough people 'believe' something then it takes hold and others begin to think (believe) it may be so

    belief is easier to accept than studying facts
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