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    Consider that in 1980, there were roughly 3,000 SWAT team-style raids in the US. By 2001, that number had grown to 45,000 and has since swelled to more than 80,000 SWAT team raids per year. On an average day in America, over 100 Americans have their homes raided by SWAT teams. In fact, there are few communities without a SWAT team on their police force today. In 1984, 25.6 percent of towns with populations between 25,000 and 50,000 people had a SWAT team. That number rose to 80 percent by 2005.

    The problem, of course, is that as SWAT teams and SWAT-style tactics are used more frequently to carry out routine law enforcement activities, Americans find themselves in increasingly dangerous and absurd situations. For example, in late July 2013, a no-kill animal shelter in Kenosha, Wisconsin, was raided by nine Department of Natural Resources (DNR) agents and four deputy sheriffs. The raid was prompted by tips that the shelter was home to a baby deer that had been separated from its mother. The shelter officials had planned to send the deer to a wildlife rehabilitation facility in Illinois, but the agents, who stormed the property unannounced, demanded that the deer be handed over because citizens are not allowed to possess wildlife. When the 13 LEOs entered the property “armed to the teeth,” they corralled the employees around a picnic table while they searched for the deer. When they returned, one agent had the deer slung over his shoulder in a body bag, ready to be euthanized.

    When asked why they didn’t simply ask shelter personnel to hand the deer over instead of conducting an unannounced raid, DNR Supervisor Jennifer Niemeyer compared their actions to drug raids, saying “If a sheriff’s department is going in to do a search warrant on a drug bust, they don’t call them and ask them to voluntarily surrender their marijuana or whatever drug that they have before they show up.”

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    More wildly worded info diary faux outrage by the crazies. Swat team? Nash

    Basically, a deer is a wild animal. You are not allowed to keep wild animals without a license. Full Stop.

    It doesn't matter if it is an orphan or a young animal. You are not allowed to keep the animal. The "armed agents" (sheriff deputies and DNR wardens) were doing what the law requires.
    No kill shelters shouldn't play nursemaid to lost Bambi's. that deer was doomed the minute they took it in. There are proper methods to rehab a wild animal and reintroduce it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howey View Post
    More wildly worded info diary faux outrage by the crazies. Swat team? Nash



    No kill shelters shouldn't play nursemaid to lost Bambi's. that deer was doomed the minute they took it in. There are proper methods to rehab a wild animal and reintroduce it.
    and in 24 hours, it was going to happen. you do love your police state, don't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    and in 24 hours, it was going to happen. you do love your police state, don't you?
    That was no more a SWAT team than the purported SWAT team that raided the milk farm in Pa a couple of years ago for illegally transporting unpasteurized milk across state lines.

    I have no problem with your taking issue with stupid stuff cops do, they're merely human, but your insanity makes Katsung look like Mary Poppins.

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