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    Default Venezuela: Down the Road of Socialism - Wealth by Cronyism Rather than by Ability

    In the end when you go down a road of Socialism, no matter how slow or how "benevolent" the causes in social welfare programs, to sustain it a government needs to use force and corruption ensues.

    "“PETROLEUM socialism” is how Hugo Chávez, Venezuela's president, recently dubbed the blend of military populism and neo-Marxist statism to which he is subjecting his country. Its prime objective, he insists, is to improve the lot of the country's poor majority. Mr Chávez proclaims that “being rich is bad”. He frequently lashes out at what he calls “the oligarchy”. Strange, then, that the streets of Caracas are clogged with big new 4x4s (Hummers are especially favoured), it is hard to get a table at the best restaurants, and art dealers and whisky importers have never had it so good. A new oligarchy seems to be rising in Venezuela on the back of the “Bolivarian Revolution”, named for the country's independence hero.

    “Some of Chávez's speeches are for the gallery,” says Alberto Muller Rojas, a retired army general who was until recently the president's chief of staff. “And I'll give you an example: the attack on the bourgeoisie.” As evidence, General Muller singles out the banks: “the most extreme expression of the bourgeoisie” but “the most favoured sector” of the economy since Mr Chávez came to power in 1999.

    Their prosperity owes much to an oil windfall: the price of Venezuela's main export has increased almost eightfold since 1999 and the economy has been growing at 10% a year. But government policies, too, have favoured the bankers and other intermediaries: inflation is close to 20% and the official value of the currency is twice its black-market exchange rate. So the savvy investor looks for access to cheap dollars, import opportunities and government contracts, all of which are largely conditional on political obedience. By contrast, manufacturers and farmers face price controls and risk sporadic official harassment. The result has been the rise of what is known, in obeisance to BolĂ*var, as the “Boli-bourgeoisie”.

    Thanks to economic growth and social programmes, the government claims that only 30% of Venezuelan families now live in poverty, down from 55% at the peak in 2003. But according to a new report by the central bank, income inequality has widened slightly under Mr Chávez: the Gini coefficient—a statistical measure of inequality—has gone from 0.44 in 2000 to 0.48 in 2005.

    Typical of the new “Boligarchy” is Wilmer Ruperti, a shipping broker who was once a merchant seaman. His ascent was helped by a two-month strike against Mr Chávez by workers at Petróleos de Venezuela (PDVSA), the state oil company. Mr Ruperti chartered ships to help the government break the strike. Another is Arné Chacón, whose brother Jesse is the communications minister. Arné now owns half of Baninvest, a bank. He acquired it with loans for which his main apparent collateral was his official connections.

    Mr Chávez claims to be pursuing economic nationalism and “endogenous development”. But farmers and manufacturers struggle against cheap imports. Though local dairy products are often missing from the supermarket shelves, Gouda and Emmenthal cheeses nestle beside Irish butter. The frozen chickens at Mercal, a government chain of subsidised grocery shops, are Brazilian. The importers who supply Mercal have grown rich. But Venezuela's ranchers are becoming extinct, threatened by expropriations, land invasions and price controls, as well as by extortion and kidnappings by criminal gangs.

    Officials stress that two-thirds of the poor have benefited directly from government social policies. As well as Mercal, these include the “missions”, which offer education and health care. Up to 2m people get a small cash stipend. But despite hefty increases in the minimum wage and price controls on basic goods, inflation is eating away at the gains.

    For those with connections, however, the rewards are great. The World Bank recently ranked Venezuela as the second-worst country in the Americas for the control of corruption, above only Haiti. Others confirm this perception. “We usually ask for 10%,” a foreign diplomat reports one government official admitting. “But some get greedy and want 15-20%.”

    Since his re-election in December, Mr Chávez has frequently suggested capping the salaries of the highest-paid public officials. He also called on those with “excess” wealth to donate part of it to worthy causes. The response has been meagre. If he really tries to make socialism more than a slogan, some of the fiercest resistance may come from the new bourgeoisie his own policies have created."

    http://www.economist.com/world/la/di...ory_id=9621513

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    Another black mark for leftism and Chavez, I wonder what blackascoal thinks of his hero now?

    Also anyone ever find it strange how leftists rail on against oil and pollution, but all of a sudden when it's a Socialist (Chavez) who benefits from oil production, then he can be their fucking hero with complete disregard of the environment that leftists love to claim they are saving from capitalists.

    Right now in Venezuela, gas is beyond cheap at between 10 to 20 cents a gallon, thanks to government subsidies (handouts), probably the least green policy on the planet, yet ever hear an environmentalist talk about that one?
    Their agenda is a political one, NOT an environmental one. Same reason the old USSR used to get a free pass on it's destruction of the environment, by the enviro-leftist movements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDanold View Post
    In the end when you go down a road of Socialism, no matter how slow or how "benevolent" the causes in social welfare programs, to sustain it a government needs to use force and corruption ensues.
    Amen Brother Dan. Ultimately, redistribution of wealth only comes through threat of violence. I'm a man of peace, a man of the porcelain God, that's why I'm a libertarian (small l now, don't know if you knew that I left the party).

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    Our entire currency system is also based on the threat of violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Our entire currency system is also based on the threat of violence.
    Would you stop freakin me out for Crissakes? Sweet mother of mercy, is there any joy in your life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    Would you stop freakin me out for Crissakes? Sweet mother of mercy, is there any joy in your life?
    Ok. You get a break. THIS TIME!
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    whatch it buddy, your talkin bout Cypress's boy there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topspin View Post
    whatch it buddy, your talkin bout Cypress's boy there
    You put up the wrong emoticon. Want me to edit it for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDanold View Post
    In the end when you go down a road of Socialism, no matter how slow or how "benevolent" the causes in social welfare programs, to sustain it a government needs to use force and corruption ensues.

    "“PETROLEUM socialism” is how Hugo Chávez, Venezuela's president, recently dubbed the blend of military populism and neo-Marxist statism to which he is subjecting his country. Its prime objective, he insists, is to improve the lot of the country's poor majority. Mr Chávez proclaims that “being rich is bad”. He frequently lashes out at what he calls “the oligarchy”. Strange, then, that the streets of Caracas are clogged with big new 4x4s (Hummers are especially favoured), it is hard to get a table at the best restaurants, and art dealers and whisky importers have never had it so good. A new oligarchy seems to be rising in Venezuela on the back of the “Bolivarian Revolution”, named for the country's independence hero.

    “Some of Chávez's speeches are for the gallery,” says Alberto Muller Rojas, a retired army general who was until recently the president's chief of staff. “And I'll give you an example: the attack on the bourgeoisie.” As evidence, General Muller singles out the banks: “the most extreme expression of the bourgeoisie” but “the most favoured sector” of the economy since Mr Chávez came to power in 1999.

    Their prosperity owes much to an oil windfall: the price of Venezuela's main export has increased almost eightfold since 1999 and the economy has been growing at 10% a year. But government policies, too, have favoured the bankers and other intermediaries: inflation is close to 20% and the official value of the currency is twice its black-market exchange rate. So the savvy investor looks for access to cheap dollars, import opportunities and government contracts, all of which are largely conditional on political obedience. By contrast, manufacturers and farmers face price controls and risk sporadic official harassment. The result has been the rise of what is known, in obeisance to BolĂ*var, as the “Boli-bourgeoisie”.

    Thanks to economic growth and social programmes, the government claims that only 30% of Venezuelan families now live in poverty, down from 55% at the peak in 2003. But according to a new report by the central bank, income inequality has widened slightly under Mr Chávez: the Gini coefficient—a statistical measure of inequality—has gone from 0.44 in 2000 to 0.48 in 2005.

    Typical of the new “Boligarchy” is Wilmer Ruperti, a shipping broker who was once a merchant seaman. His ascent was helped by a two-month strike against Mr Chávez by workers at Petróleos de Venezuela (PDVSA), the state oil company. Mr Ruperti chartered ships to help the government break the strike. Another is Arné Chacón, whose brother Jesse is the communications minister. Arné now owns half of Baninvest, a bank. He acquired it with loans for which his main apparent collateral was his official connections.

    Mr Chávez claims to be pursuing economic nationalism and “endogenous development”. But farmers and manufacturers struggle against cheap imports. Though local dairy products are often missing from the supermarket shelves, Gouda and Emmenthal cheeses nestle beside Irish butter. The frozen chickens at Mercal, a government chain of subsidised grocery shops, are Brazilian. The importers who supply Mercal have grown rich. But Venezuela's ranchers are becoming extinct, threatened by expropriations, land invasions and price controls, as well as by extortion and kidnappings by criminal gangs.

    Officials stress that two-thirds of the poor have benefited directly from government social policies. As well as Mercal, these include the “missions”, which offer education and health care. Up to 2m people get a small cash stipend. But despite hefty increases in the minimum wage and price controls on basic goods, inflation is eating away at the gains.

    For those with connections, however, the rewards are great. The World Bank recently ranked Venezuela as the second-worst country in the Americas for the control of corruption, above only Haiti. Others confirm this perception. “We usually ask for 10%,” a foreign diplomat reports one government official admitting. “But some get greedy and want 15-20%.”

    Since his re-election in December, Mr Chávez has frequently suggested capping the salaries of the highest-paid public officials. He also called on those with “excess” wealth to donate part of it to worthy causes. The response has been meagre. If he really tries to make socialism more than a slogan, some of the fiercest resistance may come from the new bourgeoisie his own policies have created."

    http://www.economist.com/world/la/di...ory_id=9621513
    I guess the republicans esp bush are jealous ?
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    You put up the wrong emoticon. Want me to edit it for you?
    I had no idea I was in your guys thoughts so much, even when I'm not around! I'm a point of gossip in NeoCon circles! I'm touched and flattered!

    Thanks guys! I had no idea people thought about me so much!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I had no idea I was in your guys thoughts so much, even when I'm not around! I'm a point of gossip in NeoCon circles! I'm touched and flattered!

    Thanks guys! I had no idea people thought about me so much!


    You kiddin? You had no idea? Sheesh, take your blinders off.

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    HaHa!

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    So he claims nationalistic goals and populism, but he is actually a cronyistic elitist globalist sellout. He's part of the nwo. He has all the backing of bush, in secret. They're all the same.
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    Naah Bush is against him for nationalizing oil and removing profit from oil companies. I think Bush is a bit jealous of Chavez though.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    So he claims nationalistic goals and populism, but he is actually a cronyistic elitist globalist sellout. He's part of the nwo. He has all the backing of bush, in secret. They're all the same.
    You're insane.
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