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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
    Contrary to what the Left want you to think, I don't believe this has to do with hatred of gay people at all. Now granted, it is most likely a true homophobic bigot would likely be opposed to gay marriage, that doesn't mean that everyone opposed to gay marriage is a homophobe or bigot. I was rather surprised to read yesterday, where local 'celeb' (if you can call him that) Antoine Dotson (Hide yo wife, hide you kids...) who is 100% flaming gay to the max.... said he supported the Biblical view of marriage... one man, one woman. He was at Chick-Fil-a on Whitesville Dr. in Huntsville, to support Cathy's right to free speech. "That's what freedom is all about," he said. Yeah, I am sure he is the exception and not the rule, but the point is made, not all who support traditional marriage are homophobes.

    I would say, a good 30% of my personal friends are gay or bisexual. I have always been a creative person working in creative fields, and therefore, have been around many gay people. I have often been mistaken for being gay, simply by the association with friends who were. And I have seen my gay friends discriminated against because they were gay. In fact, I think I have been discriminated against because someone thought I might be gay. So there are certainly homophobic people out there, and I won't say that many of them weren't at Chick-Fil-a yesterday. But there are a LOT of people out there, who may even BE gay, who support and respect the Biblical definition of marriage.

    I think this is an area where our Federal government has somehow entangled itself in something it shouldn't be sanctioning. It is very much a Church and State argument, but instead of it being addressed as this, it is used by the left to foment hate and divisiveness, to call names and ridicule. This has become the left's MO of late... cajole you into believing like them, or reap the consequences, mofo!

    You're absolutely right, this is a golden opportunity for the left, OR THE RIGHT, for that matter. This argument needs to be resolved by first pointing out, it is not the Federal government's responsibility to sanction marriage of any kind. And even State governments don't have such a right, because this is fundamentally a part of religious freedom of expression, and falls in that category most appropriately, by our traditional definitions. We have the inalienable right as free people to express our religious beliefs however we please, it's not up to the government to tell us how or to mandate it by law.

    I have often proposed an amicable solution to this, by enacting comprehensive civil unions legislation. Whereby, the "government" both Federal and State, would not be permitted to issue licenses for marriage any longer, and in place of this, would only be allowed to issue 2-party civil union contracts, with no parameters regarding relationship, whether it's gay, traditional matrimony, domestic partners, friends, family... whatever, as long as it's two consenting legal-age adults, they can obtain this contract. It will serve the same purposes as traditional marriage currently serves, it wouldn't be an "in addition to" thing, it would just be the way we did things going forward, divorcing government from the marriage sanctioning business. No more "Gay Marriage" or hoopla... but the thing is, I don't think anyone wants this to be resolved.

    I think the Left wants to continue using this as a wedge issue against the right. As long as they can get a rise out of the Bible-thumpers, they will! Because they view this as something that will eventually fracture the moderate/indies away from the more socially conservative base, and voila! Success! They don't give two shits about gay people and their little gay problems, this is about a political juggernaut remaining viable politically. Activism is the key, and how the hell can you do that if you solve the problem?
    Do you agree that trying to prohibit CFA's in certian cities is akin to trying to prevent a Mosque in NYC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jughead View Post
    Do you agree that trying to prohibit CFA's in certian cities is akin to trying to prevent a Mosque in NYC?
    YOU WEREN'T IN FAVOR OF PREVENTING A MOSQUE IN NYC!

    That's the WHOLE goddamn point here, you moron! You think it's fine and dandy to prohibit CFA in certain states, because the owner is opposed to same-sex marriage.... whereas, Muslims believe homosexuals should be EXECUTED, but have the right to build their Mosque wherever! It's like this glaring monumental fucked-up hypocrisy that is almost unbelievable... only from the left, could we find such a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
    YOU WEREN'T IN FAVOR OF PREVENTING A MOSQUE IN NYC!

    That's the WHOLE goddamn point here, you moron! You think it's fine and dandy to prohibit CFA in certain states, because the owner is opposed to same-sex marriage.... whereas, Muslims believe homosexuals should be EXECUTED, but have the right to build their Mosque wherever! It's like this glaring monumental fucked-up hypocrisy that is almost unbelievable... only from the left, could we find such a thing.
    IM NOT IN FAVOR OF PREVENTING A CFA IN CHICAGO !
    Im the one being consistant on this issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jughead View Post
    Most Major demoninations of Christanity allow Gay Marriage, so Dixie you should stop calling it the Biblical Defination, because there is plenty of debate about that.

    It might be YOUR OPINION of the Biblical defination of marriage, but it is not the definative biblical defination.
    CITE???

    Uhm... I believe it is MUCH MORE than simply MY OPINION, moron.
    Did you miss all the pictures from Chick-Fil-a from around the country yesterday?

    Yes, pretty much definitively, most denominations of Christian religion oppose homosexual marriage. Not all... but most.

    Let it also be noted, very FEW Christian denominations condemn people who are homosexual. While many teach homosexual behavior is sinful and wrong, they do not condemn those who engage in the sin... (love the sinner, hate the sin.) In that regard, many Christian churches welcome gay people, even openly gay people, into their congregations and even their ministries in some cases. But this is not to be mistaken for a Christian view that condones or supports homosexuality. It's more a Christian view that believes in tolerance, forgiveness and love.

    Of course, Christophobes and Christian-bashers don't discriminate, they are 'equal-opportunity' bigots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jughead View Post
    IM NOT IN FAVOR OF PREVENTING A CFA IN CHICAGO !
    Im the one being consistant on this issue.
    Well why aren't you at your liberal blog sites demanding that Rahm Emmanuel apologize and rescind his stupid remarks?

    Why aren't you posting one thread after another about this outrage you have? That's usually what yo do, isn't it?

    I'm not seeing one thing you've posted to defend Chick-Fil-a or Cathy, or condemn Chicago or the Left.

    So no... you're pretty fucking NOT being consistent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    IM NOT IN FAVOR OF PREVENTING A CFA IN CHICAGO !
    Im the one being consistant on this issue.
    Dixie?>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
    Well why aren't you at your liberal blog sites demanding that Rahm Emmanuel apologize and rescind his stupid remarks?

    Why aren't you posting one thread after another about this outrage you have? That's usually what yo do, isn't it?

    I'm not seeing one thing you've posted to defend Chick-Fil-a or Cathy, or condemn Chicago or the Left.

    So no... you're pretty fucking NOT being consistent!
    Ive been fully consistant, you on the other hand are being very hypocritical. You were against the mosque, but defend CFA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jugehad View Post
    Ive been fully consistant, you on the other hand are being very hypocritical. You were against the mosque, but defend CFA!
    The people who build the mosque think homosexuals should be executed, preferably by beheading. The CFA guy just believes in traditional marriage. It's more than just a little bit different, wouldn't you say?

    And why the hell are you not answering my questions? You think this is a one-way convo here, Jughead?

    Well why aren't you at your liberal blog sites demanding that Rahm Emmanuel apologize and rescind his stupid remarks?

    Why aren't you posting one thread after another about this outrage you have? That's usually what yo do, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
    The people who build the mosque think homosexuals should be executed, preferably by beheading. The CFA guy just believes in traditional marriage. It's more than just a little bit different, wouldn't you say?

    And why the hell are you not answering my questions? You think this is a one-way convo here, Jughead?

    Well why aren't you at your liberal blog sites demanding that Rahm Emmanuel apologize and rescind his stupid remarks?

    Why aren't you posting one thread after another about this outrage you have? That's usually what yo do, isn't it?
    I am simply joining the conversations that are taking place.

    You have a cite that says the people who built the mosque belive that homosexuals should be executed?
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    Seems like great advertising for Chick-Fil-A... I'll drop by and get some food just to see if there is anything to the "kiss-in" protest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Seems like great advertising for Chick-Fil-A... I'll drop by and get some food just to see if there is anything to the "kiss-in" protest.
    Take videos if there are any hot lesbian couples...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Most Major demoninations of Christanity allow Gay Marriage, so Dixie you should stop calling it the Biblical Defination, because there is plenty of debate about that..
    Maybe thats why he specified "BIBLICAL definition" as opposed to Christian definition

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    Quote Originally Posted by dixon76710 View Post
    Maybe thats why he specified "BIBLICAL definition" as opposed to Christian definition
    Maybe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    As you all know, the gay and lesbian community today will be holding kiss-ins at Chick-fil-A's across the country. I support their right to protest and stand up for their beliefs, just as I support Cathy's right to state his opinion on gay marriage. Personally I side with equality on this issue. If the government is going to be involved in marriage by providing special rights/privileges/tax bene's to couples, then it should not discriminate based on sexual orientation.

    I would think that the gay and lesbian community is witnessing a very powerful opportunity here presented by some Dem mayors in this country.

    If the gay and lesbian community came out hard against the moves by Dem mayors to prohibit Chick-fil-A from opening stores by saying: 'We are here trying to support equal opportunity and the Constitution, we abhor the move (no matter how well intended) to deny Cathy/Chick-fil-A the opportunity to expand his business in this country based on his religious beliefs. While we disagree with Cathy's position, it does not justify a violation of his Constitutional rights.'

    The question I pose to the board is this:

    What effect do you think that would have on the general populace's mindset?

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    The general prolish populace? It lets them know that there is another fast food chain that sells fried chicken sandwiches, and that maybe they are just hungry enough to risk getting some television exposure and possibly see some hot lesbians frenching it up.
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