Death Penalty for Penn State?

[WinterBorn]

Well it looks like PSU will recieve a drastic cut in scholarships and a bowl ban for 2 years but not the death penalty. Their rational for not giving the death penalty is that it is for a program on probation which commits another serious infraction.

I was just reading about the sanctions. It is a 4 year bowl ban, loss of 20 scholarships for 4 years, 5 years of probation, a $60 million fine, and vacating all wins from 1998 to 2011. They also are letting all the current players transfer with no loss of eligibility.

Its not the death penalty, but it is a pretty serious pounding. And Bobby Bowden is the new Div 1 winningest coach.

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I actually agree with the NCAAs decision here. I thought about it back when we were discussing this, that the death penalty is reserved for a violation committed while on probation. As much as I wish they could have handed it out, this was a fair judgement. I am glad they rescinded Paterno's wins, I had a problem with them letting him claim them already, the past several years, Paterno didn't do much coaching. He was kind of a CINO.

[WinterBorn]

I actually agree with the NCAAs decision here. I thought about it back when we were discussing this, that the death penalty is reserved for a violation committed while on probation. As much as I wish they could have handed it out, this was a fair judgement. I am glad they rescinded Paterno's wins, I had a problem with them letting him claim them already, the past several years, Paterno didn't do much coaching. He was kind of a CINO.

I am not much of a fan of Bobby Bowden either. Too many of his wins came from playing against weak opponents.

But Bear is now in second place, and those records are likely to stand forever. Coaches don't have the sort of long term careers they used to have.

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I am not much of a fan of Bobby Bowden either. Too many of his wins came from playing against weak opponents.

But Bear is now in second place, and those records are likely to stand forever. Coaches don't have the sort of long term careers they used to have.

You may be right, but then... Saban may have something to say about that.

[WinterBorn]

You may be right, but then... Saban may have something to say about that.

Saban is a helluva coach. In fact, he is probably the best coach in college football today. But he only has 146 wins on his resume. Bowden has 377. To get there Saban would have to win 14 games a season for 16.5 years. In the last 4 years, impressive though they have been, his average is 12 wins per season. He would have to average 12 wins a season for 20 more seasons to take over Bowden's spot.

He ain't stayin that long. lol

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Saban is a helluva coach. In fact, he is probably the best coach in college football today. But he only has 146 wins on his resume. Bowden has 377. To get there Saban would have to win 14 games a season for 16.5 years. In the last 4 years, impressive though they have been, his average is 12 wins per season. He would have to average 12 wins a season for 20 more seasons to take over Bowden's spot.

He ain't stayin that long. lol

Well I can certainly HOPE!

Besides... 20 years isn't that long, Saban is still relatively young... it's possible.

[WinterBorn]

Well I can certainly HOPE!

Besides... 20 years isn't that long, Saban is still relatively young... it's possible.

He is 60. I doubt he will coach until he is 80. He wants to be able to take the pontoon boat out on the lake with Miss Terry.

I see him stay about another 5 years. Then I hope Kirby Smart takes over as head coach. Which is why, blasphemy though it may be, I won't be upset if Smart takes a head coaching position somewhere. It will give him the experience so he can handle the job at Alabama.

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He is 60. I doubt he will coach until he is 80. He wants to be able to take the pontoon boat out on the lake with Miss Terry.

I see him stay about another 5 years. Then I hope Kirby Smart takes over as head coach. Which is why, blasphemy though it may be, I won't be upset if Smart takes a head coaching position somewhere. It will give him the experience so he can handle the job at Alabama.

I don't even want to talk about Post-Saban, I think he has many more good years left. In my life, there have only been three coaches at Alabama who actually understood what it took to live up to the expectation.. Bear, Stallings, and Saban. When I watch Saban coach, I can't help but think Bear would be proud. I had the same feeling about Stallings, but I think Saban has a better 'football' mind than Stallings. I can certainly see Saban winning more NCs at Alabama than Bear... I don't know if that 'goal' is in his mind or not, but if it is, he can certainly reach it. He just nailed down another top recruiting class, and no one can stay on the field with him as it is... the future is bright.

The problem with Alabama has always been the BoD. They almost lost Bear to the Dolphins... They ran Stallings off after he lost to a pathetic MissSt by trying to tell him how to coach... and no doubt, they will probably end up pissing Saban off at some point. But I hope he coaches to 80 and breaks Bowden's record! (By then, bama's enemies will have torched the school and stadium, but...)

[WinterBorn]

I don't even want to talk about Post-Saban, I think he has many more good years left. In my life, there have only been three coaches at Alabama who actually understood what it took to live up to the expectation.. Bear, Stallings, and Saban. When I watch Saban coach, I can't help but think Bear would be proud. I had the same feeling about Stallings, but I think Saban has a better 'football' mind than Stallings. I can certainly see Saban winning more NCs at Alabama than Bear... I don't know if that 'goal' is in his mind or not, but if it is, he can certainly reach it. He just nailed down another top recruiting class, and no one can stay on the field with him as it is... the future is bright.

The problem with Alabama has always been the BoD. They almost lost Bear to the Dolphins... They ran Stallings off after he lost to a pathetic MissSt by trying to tell him how to coach... and no doubt, they will probably end up pissing Saban off at some point. But I hope he coaches to 80 and breaks Bowden's record! (By then, bama's enemies will have torched the school and stadium, but...)

I see him going about another 5 to 7 years and then hanging it up. He will have earned his retirement.