"Weed Wars" clinic (Harborside) under RICO filing by CA. USDA

[USFREEDOM911]

Fuck off retard.

See; even you can't defend Poet, without realizing what an ass he was.
Now; aren't you going to agree with BAC?
I mean, he is black and you know how much that means to you.

[blackascoal]

Indeed, I actually meant to qualify the distinguish comment, but then didn't follow through, sorry.
I thank you for appreciating my perspective. That is such a nice thing, and so uncommon arround here.

Thank you brother.

[blackascoal]

See; even you can't defend Poet, without realizing what an ass he was.
Now; aren't you going to agree with BAC?
I mean, he is black and you know how much that means to you.

I think that was uncalled for.

I welcomed Rune's comments and I apologized because he was correct.

I disagree with Poet .. but I was wrong to call him an idiot .. particularly because he isn't here.

[annata]

http://www.procon.org/headline.php?headlineID=005086

Obama:] Here's what's up: What I specifically said was that we were not going to prioritize prosecutions of persons who are using medical marijuana. I never made a commitment that somehow we were going to give carte blanche to large-scale producers and operators of marijuana – and the reason is, because it's against federal law. I can't nullify congressional law. I can't ask the Justice Department to say, 'Ignore completely a federal law that's on the books.' What I can say is, 'Use your prosecutorial discretion and properly prioritize your resources to go after things that are really doing folks damage.' As a consequence, there haven't been prosecutions of users of marijuana for medical purposes.

The only tension that's come up – and this gets hyped up a lot – is a murky area where you have large-scale, commercial operations that may supply medical marijuana users, but in some cases may also be supplying recreational users. In that situation, we put the Justice Department in a very difficult place if we're telling them, 'This is supposed to be against the law, but we want you to turn the other way.' That's not something we're going to do. I do think it's important and useful to have a broader debate about our drug laws.



what a load of shit, "maybe used by recreational users" Harborside was well run, many of the clinics were well run.
Doesn't matter -RELEASE THE DEA HOUNDS!! -cuz Obama really really cares....except when it's inconvenient.

[annata]

On Feb. 29, 2009 Attorney General Eric Holder said that he did not expect raids on medical marijuana clinics to continue. "He was my boss during the campaign, he is formally and technically and by law my boss now. So what he said during the campaign is now American policy."

On Oct. 19, 2009 the Department of Justice issued its now famous Ogden memo, which announced that prosecutorial priorities should not target "individuals whose actions are in clear and unambiguous compliance with existing state laws providing for the medical use of marijuana." Most observers believed that medical marijuana users and caregivers who complied with state law would no longer be the focus of federal prosecution.

However, on Oct. 7, 2011, federal prosecutors in California announced their efforts to crack down on medical marijuana dispensaries with "significant commercial operations." Drug policy experts have alleged that federal raids on medical marijuana clinics indicate that President Obama and the Department of Justice (DOJ) have contradicted their earlier positions on medical marijuana.
Just in case it 's missed Berkley and Harborside were well run, and documented. Harborside was closed over a city permit -nothing more

[blackascoal]

Sorry.
I figured the picture was of your daughter; but from some of your comments, I thought you were her mother. My bad.

Poet came on here, a few month's back, and proceeded to classify anyone who disagreed with Obama as either being a racist, an Uncle Tom, an Oreo, etc.
Plus he was the only poster I know, that revealed so much of his personal life and himself.
Then when a poster referred to something he revealed, he said that it was personal information that no one had any right to talk about.

You do know that you've now thrown Gatoman, Darla, Christiefan, and some others into a quandry.

They want so hard to be black and they were such supporters of Poet, that they now won't know what to do; since you made a disparaging remark about him, you're Black, and they feel they have to agree with what ever you say.

Again, I disagree .. and, with all due respect, suggesting that any of them "want to be black" because they support the political and social aspirations of black people is beneath your intelligence and wisdom. I support the political and social aspirations of all kinds of people .. doesn't mean that I want to be them. We should all be comfortable in the skin we're in .. but recognize that it's just skin. Underneath that skin, we all look the same.

Without people like Gatorman, Darla, Christiefan, Rune, and many others, the plight of African-Americans and other non-white people would be far worse than it is today. There are no words that quantify my appreciation for their humanity. The last thing my presence does for them is throw them into a quandry. I am a product of their spirituality. These aren't just meant to be nice words my good brother. I am deeply sincere about everything I'm saying here.

I sense no need for them to agree with me anymore than I feel the need to agree with them. They know that we can disagree .. and I will still have great respect for them. I know they feel the same.

No problem with you thinking I was the mother. I raised her by myself .. so in a sense, I was the mother and the father. :0)

I like you and enjoy the conversations although we don't always agree on issues.

[Darla]

Again, I disagree .. and, with all due respect, suggesting that any of them "want to be black" because they support the political and social aspirations of black people is beneath your intelligence and wisdom. I support the political and social aspirations of all kinds of people .. doesn't mean that I want to be them. We should all be comfortable in the skin we're in .. but recognize that it's just skin. Underneath that skin, we all look the same.

Without people like Gatorman, Darla, Christiefan, Rune, and many others, the plight of African-Americans and other non-white people would be far worse than it is today. There are no words that quantify my appreciation for their humanity. The last thing my presence does for them is throw them into a quandry. I am a product of their spirituality. These aren't just meant to be nice words my good brother. I am deeply sincere about everything I'm saying here.

No problem with you thinking I was the mother. I raised her by myself .. so in a sense, I was the mother and the father. :0)

I like you and enjoy the conversations although we don't always agree on issues.

I actually argued with poet fairly often, but also defended him from in particular, homophobic, gendered attacks. Though I often disagreed with him, I also often agreed with him. I always used to wonder what you would make of him, I had no idea you knew him from another board!

Thank you for your kind feelings bac...they are returned in full.

[Socrtease]

If Gary Johnson were president you could be sure that HIS justice department would not be filing these types of lawsuits.

[blackascoal]

I actually argued with poet fairly often, but also defended him from in particular, homophobic, gendered attacks. Though I often disagreed with him, I also often agreed with him. I always used to wonder what you would make of him, I had no idea you knew him from another board!

Thank you for your kind feelings bac...they are returned in full.

Thank you good sister.

There is a bit of a "black thing" going on between Poet and I. :0) Just being honest.

Nothing personal, but can get a bit passionate. He thinks Obama is Neo because he's black. I don't. But that disconnect is not unique to him. I have friends and family who run from me. I hadn't spoken to my sister since 2008 .. she wouldn't return my calls .. until a couple of weeks ago when we hugged at our family reunion. I missed my sister. :0)

The problem for Poet and my sister is that they can't defend Obama against the truth.

The problem for me is that I can't support anything but the truth.

[blackascoal]

If Gary Johnson were president you could be sure that HIS justice department would not be filing these types of lawsuits.

Which is one of several reasons why Johnson is attractive to many.

[Darla]

Thank you good sister.

There is a bit of a "black thing" going on between Poet and I. :0) Just being honest.

Nothing personal, but can get a bit passionate. He thinks Obama is Neo because he's black. I don't. But that disconnect is not unique to him. I have friends and family who run from me. I hadn't spoken to my sister since 2008 .. she wouldn't return my calls .. until a couple of weeks ago when we hugged at our family reunion. I missed my sister. :0)

The problem for Poet and my sister is that they can't defend Obama against the truth.

The problem for me is that I can't support anything but the truth.

I get it. I am between you and poet basically. I'm not at all happy with Obama, but I am voting for him. I know I will take a lot of heat for that down the line but I'm not going to lie. I'm voting for him. And I do think he is more than marginally better than the alternative. I do see a difference, though nowhere near as much of a difference as I would have liked.

[annata]

Which is one of several reasons why Johnson is attractive to many.

if for no other reason then by default, yes. I am more libertarian then I care to admit - i want a smaller less intrusive gov't, one that doesn't constantly expand fed'l powers, and enjoin the states from their role as "the laboratory of change".

Toss in the Rep/Dem duopoly of sameness, i guarantee ( a $5.00 bet being as i'm poor) that whichever party takes over Congress, whomever is in the WH;
the GWOT (globalwar on terror) wil continue.
It's manifest by Obama's actions, and Romney says nothing but he does criticize Obama for "not being tough enough on (fill in the country/policy)"

I'm sick of the loss of federalism - this whole thread is based on allowing the states to not usurp Fed'l powrs, but for the Fed to respect state laws.
Things were going nicely, one of the few areas I praised Obam about, till the "suits" decided we can't have this ( or maybe just Obama caved to the DEA)

There is absolutey no reason to be going after medical marijuana -except to please Big Pharma - who wants to sell you dervitives they OWN patent rights on.
The same bunch of corporatists who helped write the HC laws.

we already have vaporizers, for those who claim "smoked MJ is not medicinal" -or just eat it ( cookies etc.)
The more sickening I find the duopoloy, the more i want real change - not just powershifting in DC.

[blackascoal]

I get it. I am between you and poet basically. I'm not at all happy with Obama, but I am voting for him. I know I will take a lot of heat for that down the line but I'm not going to lie. I'm voting for him. And I do think he is more than marginally better than the alternative. I do see a difference, though nowhere near as much of a difference as I would have liked.

Vote for Obama .. I'll still love you. :0)

War is the decider for me. To the families and children that Obama slaughters, he is a monster. He slaughters innocent people for profit.

I understand the concept of lesser evil, I just don't buy into it. It's why the Democratic Party has lost the moral high ground and become almost indistinuishable from the Republican Party.

Lesser evil still gets you evil.

[blackascoal]

if for no other reason then by default, yes. I am more libertarian then I care to admit - i want a smaller less intrusive gov't, one that doesn't constantly expand fed'l powers, and enjoin the states from their role as "the laboratory of change".

Toss in the Rep/Dem duopoly of sameness, i guarantee ( a $5.00 bet being as i'm poor) that whichever party takes over Congress, whomever is in the WH;
the GWOT (globalwar on terror) wil continue.
It's manifest by Obama's actions, and Romney says nothing but he does criticize Obama for "not being tough enough on (fill in the country/policy)"

I'm sick of the loss of federalism - this whole thread is based on allowing the states to not usurp Fed'l powrs, but for the Fed to respect state laws.
Things were going nicely, one of the few areas I praised Obam about, till the "suits" decided we can't have this ( or maybe just Obama caved to the DEA)

There is absolutey no reason to be going after medical marijuana -except to please Big Pharma - who wants to sell you dervitives they OWN patent rights on.
The same bunch of corporatists who helped write the HC laws.

we already have vaporizers, for those who claim "smoked MJ is not medicinal" -or just eat it ( cookies etc.)
The more sickening I find the duopoloy, the more i want real change - not just powershifting in DC.

I agree with all that.

[USFREEDOM911]

I think that was uncalled for.

I welcomed Rune's comments and I apologized because he was correct.

I disagree with Poet .. but I was wrong to call him an idiot .. particularly because he isn't here.

I understand what you're saying and my exchange had more to do with Rune and his constant and unwavering defense of Poet, no matter what Poet said.
Rune was of the opinion that Poet was the wherewithall, regarding everything; only because Poet was Black.

I think you were gone for the majority of this.

That and I like to see Rune twisting in the wind; because he's nothing more then a windsock.