Reply With QuoteDixie will only read a third of it.Originally Posted by Jarod
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Please read the opinion before comment!
Many of you are speaking out of your asses parroting things you heard from pundits with agendas.
You look like fools ...
Start at page 7 read through page 50 for the meat of it.... It's an interesting history lesson!
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...11-393c3a2.pdf
" Happy day? Why is that, pinhead? " Dixie's reaction to OBL being killed.
"Is that just math you use as a Republican to make yourself feel better?" - Fox News to Karl Rove
Dixie will only read a third of it.
I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're going, and hook up with them later.
Mott the Hoople (07-02-2012)
I do not question the Constitutionality of the law, per se. I'm currently on page 15; thus far, Roberts has built a persuasive argument. I particularly like this excerpt:
"Members of this Court are vested with the authority to interpret the law; we possess neither the expertise nor the prerogative to make policy judgments. Those decisions are entrusted to our Nation’s elected leaders, who can be thrown out of office if the people disagree with them. It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices."
So, the bottom line is that I understand why Roberts voted the way he did. What I question is whether the ACA will actually decrease the cost of health insurance. I also question how well it will function in the real world (of the 5 - 6 doctors I know, all of them have referred to the law as "disastrous"). Time will tell. One thing is for certain: the best place for this debate is, and always has been, the Congress, and though I may personally dislike the results, I think the Supreme Court did everyone a favor by affirming that.
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Superfreak (07-02-2012)
I don't need to read the opinion to render this opinion.....
The law was voted on and passed by the US Congress as is normal procedure in all legislation......BUT
the law that was voted on made no mention of a TAX on those that don't buy insurance.....is it a penalty or a fee or what?
therefore, the legislators voted on something different than what the SC ruled on and defined.....the vote was passed without a TAX and now its defined their was
a tax in the legislation after the fact....thats fraud.....
That alone should have been grounds to throw out the law and have it rewritten to reflect the truth of its content and re-voted on.....
Do you you blabber, bluster, and blow smoke ?...then you're likely a Democrat
Originally Posted by Howey
Ridicule of her handicapped son can't be far behindNo. I didn't call Palin a c--t because she's a conservative. I called her a cunt because she's a c--t.
And her daughter's a drunken slut whore.
Didn't she give birth to a drunken fat whore who dropped out of high school
and gave birth to a bastard son
Canceled (07-01-2012)
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Even bravo knows that the "tax" is upon those choosing not to buy insurance.
" Happy day? Why is that, pinhead? " Dixie's reaction to OBL being killed.
"Is that just math you use as a Republican to make yourself feel better?" - Fox News to Karl Rove
and therein lies the problem with this law. ALWAYS in the past, taxes have been imposed upon a person for their participation in some sort of commerce. NOW, taxes are being imposed upon people for NON PARTICIPATION. All this decision did was place the power to extract money from the populace, in any amount and for any purpose at any time of congress' choosing. private property and the fruits of our own personal labors belong to us no more.
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callinectes (07-01-2012)
And you ignore the important point.....when voted on and passed by Congress, the legislation did not contain nor mention any TAX levied on anyone.....
That IS NOT the law that was voted on.....
Thats like voting on abolishing the death penalty and then after its passed, finding out that it only applies to the death by ripping ones lungs out....
Do you you blabber, bluster, and blow smoke ?...then you're likely a Democrat
Originally Posted by Howey
Ridicule of her handicapped son can't be far behindNo. I didn't call Palin a c--t because she's a conservative. I called her a cunt because she's a c--t.
And her daughter's a drunken slut whore.
Didn't she give birth to a drunken fat whore who dropped out of high school
and gave birth to a bastard son
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A rose by any other name is still a rose, or a turd by any other name is still a turd, depending on your perspective.
The provisions of the law have not changed, the "penalty" / "tax" is still the same thing the representatives voted for.
My only point is that Postmodern and Dixie are wrong. You are at least being honest about what the bill says. Your argument, while I disagree with it, is at least honest about what the S. Ct. said.
" Happy day? Why is that, pinhead? " Dixie's reaction to OBL being killed.
"Is that just math you use as a Republican to make yourself feel better?" - Fox News to Karl Rove
Sorry counselor....words have meanings......in law and especially in laws and legislation....
Taxes, penalty, fees, dues, costs, price, fines, etc. all mean different things....and to pass a law saying one thing and then, after the fact, change the words or wording, which does in itself change the law, its something else.....its IS NOT THE SAME LAW THAT WAS VOTED FOR and AGAINST the first time.
You know that as well as I ....... how the fuck can you claim to be a lawyer and ignore that obvious wrong.....
If you client got a plea bargain for 30 days in county and after the paper work is done it turns out to be 30 months in state, would you just freakin over look that...????
Do you you blabber, bluster, and blow smoke ?...then you're likely a Democrat
Originally Posted by Howey
Ridicule of her handicapped son can't be far behindNo. I didn't call Palin a c--t because she's a conservative. I called her a cunt because she's a c--t.
And her daughter's a drunken slut whore.
Didn't she give birth to a drunken fat whore who dropped out of high school
and gave birth to a bastard son
Yurt (07-01-2012)
jarod....any luck yet finding a case that limits the tax and spend clause?
if only that were true, because if it were actually true then we wouldn't have to worry about being tried twice for the same criminal act if the first outcome wasn't favorable to the government.
You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. —CHARLES A. BEARD
The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. - Patrick Henry
what?
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As long as the result was what we agreed to, I would not care about the wording.
" Happy day? Why is that, pinhead? " Dixie's reaction to OBL being killed.
"Is that just math you use as a Republican to make yourself feel better?" - Fox News to Karl Rove
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I dont remember every claiming one existed.
" Happy day? Why is that, pinhead? " Dixie's reaction to OBL being killed.
"Is that just math you use as a Republican to make yourself feel better?" - Fox News to Karl Rove
thanks for proving my point.
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