How does it feel to now be a taxpayer?

[The Dude]

You know Dude, that's essentially the point of why the right opposes HC reform. They got there's and now they're pissed that primary care is going to be made affordable for those who have less economic resources. Like that is somehow going to affect them?

The next step to improve health care outcomes in our nation is to bust the monopoly MD's have in our country. We need more primary care physicians. We need more students graduating from Medical School and going into primary care. Only in the US does it cost $250,000 to $500,000 to educate a Doctor. The MD's monopoly needs to be busted so that eliminate these artificial barriers that keep costs for primary care artificially high. We need more competition in the HC market and not less. This monopoly needs to end.

The economic recovery takes off from here! At the very least you have removed uncertainty! Only wingnuts will Indian dance to repeal, sane people will operate in the progressive educated environment we live in.

[Jarod]

I also forgot to mention....

Not only will I not have to pay the tax... I get to keep my insurance. See, I am insured by the "Florida Pre-Existing Insurance Program" that would not exist unless the ACA had been passed, and would have been done away with had the S.Ct. struck it down. MY wife did not sleep Wenesday night worried that I was going to lose my insuance.

Her Facebook update Thursday was, "Thank You Justice Roberts!"

[apple0154]

But the government CAN'T control it. It's not interstate commerce. That was made clear in the ruling yesterday, and it simply doesn't matter anymore.

Now, if the PEOPLE decide, they want to fund this or that little doctor program you have dreamed up... they can vote for politicians who will pass a tax to fund it! Or not! It's entirely up to the people to decide what they want to be taxed for. That was also determined by SCOTUS.

Exactly. Now the people can see what a government medical plan can do. They didn't have that choice before because the government couldn't get its act together. I've been saying precisely that from the beginning. The citizens in every country with government medical do vote for their medical plan. They insist their government keep it. Now US citizens will experience children being covered until 26 years of age. They'll experience pre-existing conditions being covered. They'll want to keep those things and lots more as the plan is fine tuned. The point being there is a plan to work with. People have seen the government is able to intervene in the medical fiasco that has been going on.

A few days ago I was reading something about a government plan being discussed in 1912! One hundred years ago!

My take on Justice Robert's ruling that the plan was OK if considered a tax was the result of him realizing something had to be done. He could have easily taken the Conservative stance and mentioned nothing about going that route and just scrapped the plan but he probably realized no political party would have picked up the ball in the foreseeable future and nothing would have progressed. He did the enlightened thing. Enough is enough. It's been debated, one way or another, for a century. Finally the Democrats got something passed and my belief is Roberts wasn't going to abort the start of it's life, in a manner of speaking.

[Jarod]

I am enjoying the Republican hypocracy as they rail against a plan innitiated by Teddy Rosevelt, promoted by Richard Nixon, Promoted by Newt Gingrich and written by Mitt Romney.. Simply because Barak Obama was able to get it done!

[The Dude]

I am enjoying the Republican hypocracy as they rail against a plan innitiated by Teddy Rosevelt, promoted by Richard Nixon, Promoted by Newt Gingrich and written by Mitt Romney.. Simply because Barak Obama was able to get it done!

See definition- flat earther

[PostmodernProphet]

money we've already set aside for other things (like EIC) can't be touched to pay for this.

no problem then....we've never set aside money to pay for EIC.......

[PostmodernProphet]

The average monthly cost of a typical comprehensive 80/20 insurance plan, is about $400.

???....I pay over $600 with a $5k deductible....

[PostmodernProphet]

More disinformation...the 600b comes from partially from eliminating fraud.

which should have been eliminated BEFORE discussing health care......

[PostmodernProphet]

Ive been paying income taxes since I was 15 years old.
I will not have to pay this new tax because Ive done the responsable thing and purchashed health care insurance for myself and my family.
The only people who will have to pay the tax is people who have not done the responsable thing and chosen to depend on the taxpayer in the event they get sick.

no, you will be paying taxes to cover the cost of insuring those who can't afford purchase health care insurance.....

[Onceler]

no, you will be paying taxes to cover the cost of insuring those who can't afford purchase health care insurance.....

Don't we basically do that now for most of the uninsured?

[PostmodernProphet]

Don't we basically do that now for most of the uninsured?

no that I'm aware of, do you have something that indicates otherwise?.....

[Onceler]

no that I'm aware of, do you have something that indicates otherwise?.....

There was a study that put the figure at an extra $1,017 for the average US family to pay for healthcare for the uninsured.

[Superfreak]

The year prior to the ACA 2/3rds of all bankruptcy filings were for medical/health emergencies. Health care is not a commodity to be traded to the highest bidder. No one should go broke because they got hurt or sick.

yeah... everyone else should pay for them.

[Dungheap]

yeah... everyone else should pay for them.

Glad we agree on that point.

[WinterBorn]

There was a study that put the figure at an extra $1,017 for the average US family to pay for healthcare for the uninsured.

I doubt that includes the higher prices charged by hospitals to offset unpaid accounts.