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    Decriminalizing possession of 25 grams or less is a good start, though I'd like to see him decriminalize smoking it as well. But even what he is trying here will really positively impact the minority communities in NYC - who are nothing but prey for the racists in the NYPD.

    Interesting that the great limousine liberal hero, Mike Bloomberg (he's for the gays yay!!!!!) is against this. He and his union-busting girlfriend are pieces of shit.

    Cuomo Seeks Cut in Frisk Arrests
    By THOMAS KAPLAN

    Wading into the debate over stop-and-frisk police tactics, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo plans to ask legislators on Monday for a change in New York State law that would drastically reduce the number of people who could be arrested for marijuana possession as a result of police stops.

    The governor will call for the decriminalization of possession of small amounts of marijuana in public view, administration officials said. Advocates of such a change say the offense has ensnared tens of thousands of young black and Latino men who are stopped by the New York City police for other reasons but after being instructed to empty their pockets, find themselves charged with a crime.

    Reducing the impact of the Bloomberg administration’s stop-and-frisk policy has been a top priority of lawmakers from minority neighborhoods, who have urged Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, to pay more attention to the needs of their communities. The lawmakers argue that young men found with small amounts of marijuana are being needlessly funneled into the criminal justice system and have difficulty finding jobs as a result.

    By deciding to get involved in the biggest law enforcement issue roiling New York City, Mr. Cuomo is again inserting himself into the affairs of the city in a way that has been welcomed by some and resented by others. He previously brokered the resolution of a dispute over legalizing street hails of livery cabs, and he ordered the city to stop requiring that food stamp applicants be fingerprinted.

    In this case, the governor would be acting against the wishes of Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, and in spite of a September directive from the police commissioner, Raymond W. Kelly, who instructed officers not to arrest people who take small amounts of marijuana out of their pockets or bags after being stopped by the police.

    The Drug Policy Alliance, an advocacy group critical of the Police Department’s marijuana arrest policies, found that only a modest decline in the arrests followed Mr. Kelly’s memorandum.

    Though the governor’s legislation does not address the high number of stops by the police, it would take aim at what many black and Hispanic lawmakers as well as advocacy groups say has been one of the most damaging results of the aggressive police tactics: arrest records for young people who have small amounts of marijuana in their pockets.

    “For individuals who have any kind of a record, even a minuscule one, the obstacles are enormous to employment and to education,” said Donna Lieberman, the executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union. “When it’s really a huge number of kids in the community who go through this, and all have the same story, the impact is just devastating.”

    The police in New York City made 50,684 arrests last year for possession of a small amount of marijuana, more than for any other offense, according to an analysis of state data by Harry G. Levine, a sociologist at Queens College. The arrests continued — one in seven arrests made in the city was for low-level marijuana possession — even as Commissioner Kelly issued his directive.

    Mr. Bloomberg has opposed ending arrests for the possession of small amounts of marijuana. His administration has argued that the arrests serve to reduce more serious crime by deterring drug dealing and the violence that can accompany the drug trade. A spokesman for the mayor declined to comment Sunday.

    Mr. Cuomo plans to announce his support for the change at a news conference at the Capitol. While his push comes late in the year’s legislative session, which is scheduled to end June 21, the governor has been successful in his first 17 months in office at focusing attention on a limited number of legislative priorities and persuading lawmakers to address them quickly.

    “This proposal will bring long overdue consistency and fairness to New York State’s Penal Law and save thousands of New Yorkers, particularly minority youth, from the unnecessary and life-altering trauma of a criminal arrest and, in some cases, prosecution,” an administration official said in an e-mail.

    It would also save law enforcement “countless man-hours wasted” on arrests and prosecutions “for what is clearly only a minor offense,” the official added.

    Officials in the Cuomo administration said the marijuana-possession arrests were problematic in part because they subjected New Yorkers, many of them young, to the process of being booked, retaining a lawyer and carrying the stigma of having been arrested. And they argued that the arrests were harming the relationship between the police and young people.

    More than a dozen states have decriminalized possession of small amounts of marijuana, including Connecticut last year and California the year before. In New York, the Legislature in 1977 reduced the penalty for possession of 25 grams or less of marijuana to a violation, which carries a maximum fine of $100 for first-time offenders.

    But it remains a misdemeanor if the marijuana is in public view or is being smoked in public, and lawmakers and drug-reform advocates have argued that the misdemeanor charge is often unfairly applied to suspects who did not have marijuana in public view until the police stopped them and told them to empty their pockets.

    “Now it’s in public view,” Professor Levine said. “If you go by the police reports, all around New York City, there are people standing around with their palms outstretched with a bit of marijuana in them.”

    From 2002 to 2011, New York City recorded 400,000 low-level marijuana arrests, according to his analysis. That represented more arrests than under Mr. Bloomberg’s three predecessors put together — a period of 24 years. Most of those arrested have been young black and Hispanic men, and most had no prior criminal convictions.

    Mr. Cuomo’s action comes after a number of state legislators and City Council members, many of them representing neighborhoods with large minority populations, have sought ways to force change at the Police Department.

    In Albany, some lawmakers have proposed legislation that would prevent police officers from stopping people based only on their race or ethnicity, and that would create an inspector general to oversee the Police Department.

    And Assemblyman Hakeem Jeffries, Democrat of Brooklyn, and State Senator Mark J. Grisanti, Republican of Buffalo, have pressed a bill to end low-level marijuana arrests.

    Mr. Cuomo’s proposal would reduce the penalty for the possession of 25 grams or less of marijuana in public view to a violation.

    It would continue to classify public marijuana smoking as a misdemeanor, unlike the bill proposed by Mr. Jeffries and Mr. Grisanti, which would decriminalize it.

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    Conservatives seem to be torn on this issue.

    Their fear of - and hatred for - minorities is struggling against their desire to take away government power.

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    good frickin god darla. do you just happen to read an article, like it, then post it without understanding any of the history of the issue?

    possession of small amounts of marijuana has been legal in new york for a couple of years now. The reason there have been so many arrests isn't for the possession, but that the letter of the law states it must not be in plain view. So NYC cops ask if people have marijuana on them and to show the cops the amount, then they arrest them for displaying it in the public.

    http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...straight-year/

    While state law makes possession of less than 25 grams of marijuana an arrestable misdemeanor offense only when someone has it in public view, critics say that officers routinely make people they “stop and frisk” empty their pockets, then arrest them for having marijuana in public view.
    stupid fucking liberals.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    Decriminalizing possession of 25 grams or less is a good start, though I'd like to see him decriminalize smoking it as well. But even what he is trying here will really positively impact the minority communities in NYC - who are nothing but prey for the racists in the NYPD.

    Interesting that the great limousine liberal hero, Mike Bloomberg (he's for the gays yay!!!!!) is against this. He and his union-busting girlfriend are pieces of shit.

    Cuomo Seeks Cut in Frisk Arrests
    By THOMAS KAPLAN

    Wading into the debate over stop-and-frisk police tactics, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo plans to ask legislators on Monday for a change in New York State law that would drastically reduce the number of people who could be arrested for marijuana possession as a result of police stops.

    The governor will call for the decriminalization of possession of small amounts of marijuana in public view, administration officials said. Advocates of such a change say the offense has ensnared tens of thousands of young black and Latino men who are stopped by the New York City police for other reasons but after being instructed to empty their pockets, find themselves charged with a crime.

    Reducing the impact of the Bloomberg administration’s stop-and-frisk policy has been a top priority of lawmakers from minority neighborhoods, who have urged Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, to pay more attention to the needs of their communities. The lawmakers argue that young men found with small amounts of marijuana are being needlessly funneled into the criminal justice system and have difficulty finding jobs as a result.

    By deciding to get involved in the biggest law enforcement issue roiling New York City, Mr. Cuomo is again inserting himself into the affairs of the city in a way that has been welcomed by some and resented by others. He previously brokered the resolution of a dispute over legalizing street hails of livery cabs, and he ordered the city to stop requiring that food stamp applicants be fingerprinted.

    In this case, the governor would be acting against the wishes of Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, and in spite of a September directive from the police commissioner, Raymond W. Kelly, who instructed officers not to arrest people who take small amounts of marijuana out of their pockets or bags after being stopped by the police.

    The Drug Policy Alliance, an advocacy group critical of the Police Department’s marijuana arrest policies, found that only a modest decline in the arrests followed Mr. Kelly’s memorandum.

    Though the governor’s legislation does not address the high number of stops by the police, it would take aim at what many black and Hispanic lawmakers as well as advocacy groups say has been one of the most damaging results of the aggressive police tactics: arrest records for young people who have small amounts of marijuana in their pockets.

    “For individuals who have any kind of a record, even a minuscule one, the obstacles are enormous to employment and to education,” said Donna Lieberman, the executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union. “When it’s really a huge number of kids in the community who go through this, and all have the same story, the impact is just devastating.”

    The police in New York City made 50,684 arrests last year for possession of a small amount of marijuana, more than for any other offense, according to an analysis of state data by Harry G. Levine, a sociologist at Queens College. The arrests continued — one in seven arrests made in the city was for low-level marijuana possession — even as Commissioner Kelly issued his directive.

    Mr. Bloomberg has opposed ending arrests for the possession of small amounts of marijuana. His administration has argued that the arrests serve to reduce more serious crime by deterring drug dealing and the violence that can accompany the drug trade. A spokesman for the mayor declined to comment Sunday.

    Mr. Cuomo plans to announce his support for the change at a news conference at the Capitol. While his push comes late in the year’s legislative session, which is scheduled to end June 21, the governor has been successful in his first 17 months in office at focusing attention on a limited number of legislative priorities and persuading lawmakers to address them quickly.

    “This proposal will bring long overdue consistency and fairness to New York State’s Penal Law and save thousands of New Yorkers, particularly minority youth, from the unnecessary and life-altering trauma of a criminal arrest and, in some cases, prosecution,” an administration official said in an e-mail.

    It would also save law enforcement “countless man-hours wasted” on arrests and prosecutions “for what is clearly only a minor offense,” the official added.

    Officials in the Cuomo administration said the marijuana-possession arrests were problematic in part because they subjected New Yorkers, many of them young, to the process of being booked, retaining a lawyer and carrying the stigma of having been arrested. And they argued that the arrests were harming the relationship between the police and young people.

    More than a dozen states have decriminalized possession of small amounts of marijuana, including Connecticut last year and California the year before. In New York, the Legislature in 1977 reduced the penalty for possession of 25 grams or less of marijuana to a violation, which carries a maximum fine of $100 for first-time offenders.

    But it remains a misdemeanor if the marijuana is in public view or is being smoked in public, and lawmakers and drug-reform advocates have argued that the misdemeanor charge is often unfairly applied to suspects who did not have marijuana in public view until the police stopped them and told them to empty their pockets.

    “Now it’s in public view,” Professor Levine said. “If you go by the police reports, all around New York City, there are people standing around with their palms outstretched with a bit of marijuana in them.”

    From 2002 to 2011, New York City recorded 400,000 low-level marijuana arrests, according to his analysis. That represented more arrests than under Mr. Bloomberg’s three predecessors put together — a period of 24 years. Most of those arrested have been young black and Hispanic men, and most had no prior criminal convictions.

    Mr. Cuomo’s action comes after a number of state legislators and City Council members, many of them representing neighborhoods with large minority populations, have sought ways to force change at the Police Department.

    In Albany, some lawmakers have proposed legislation that would prevent police officers from stopping people based only on their race or ethnicity, and that would create an inspector general to oversee the Police Department.

    And Assemblyman Hakeem Jeffries, Democrat of Brooklyn, and State Senator Mark J. Grisanti, Republican of Buffalo, have pressed a bill to end low-level marijuana arrests.

    Mr. Cuomo’s proposal would reduce the penalty for the possession of 25 grams or less of marijuana in public view to a violation.

    It would continue to classify public marijuana smoking as a misdemeanor, unlike the bill proposed by Mr. Jeffries and Mr. Grisanti, which would decriminalize it.

    Full Story: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/04/ny...gewanted=print
    Its a start!

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    Obama has been a huge failure to the cannabis community. Here's to hoping if he wins he will evolve like he did on gay marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    good frickin god darla. do you just happen to read an article, like it, then post it without understanding any of the history of the issue?

    possession of small amounts of marijuana has been legal in new york for a couple of years now. The reason there have been so many arrests isn't for the possession, but that the letter of the law states it must not be in plain view. So NYC cops ask if people have marijuana on them and to show the cops the amount, then they arrest them for displaying it in the public.

    http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...straight-year/



    stupid fucking liberals.
    Right and his proposed law would change that moron.

    Who is it that didn't read the article?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    Right and his proposed law would change that moron.

    Who is it that didn't read the article?
    his proposal only changes it from a misdemeanor arrest to a citation. it's still money they are extorting from an otherwise legal and harmless act. DUH!!!!!

    and what good is changing that going to do anyway when the cops KNEW from a directive NOT TO ARREST for the display, but did it anyway? why do we need to change the laws because cops don't follow their fucking orders?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    his proposal only changes it from a misdemeanor arrest to a citation. it's still money they are extorting from an otherwise legal and harmless act. DUH!!!!!
    It means that thousands of minorities won't go to prison, and they will never be put into the system, become unemployable, and have their lives wrecked.

    I know you don't care about that, thanks for admitting it.
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    Any step forward on the war on drugs, woman, and gays is important.
    Obama can be the best social policy pres ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    It means that thousands of minorities won't go to prison, and they will never be put into the system, become unemployable, and have their lives wrecked.
    misdemeanor display doesn't send anyone to prison. The issue is the arrest period, affecting ability to get a job. and again, how is it going to change anything when the cops aren't following the orders of their bosses anyway?

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    I know you don't care about that, thanks for admitting it.
    YOU are the one that doesn't care about peoples rights, remember? or should I start in on that again?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    misdemeanor display doesn't send anyone to prison. The issue is the arrest period, affecting ability to get a job. and again, how is it going to change anything when the cops aren't following the orders of their bosses anyway?

    YOU are the one that doesn't care about peoples rights, remember? or should I start in on that again?
    Nope racist, with this there will be no arrest, that's the whole point.

    It will be great news for NYC's minority communities if it goes through. But all you care about is bashing democrats. You love seeing minorities lose their lives, and if you can't shoot em, might as well put them in prison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    Nope racist, with this there will be no arrest, that's the whole point.

    It will be great news for NYC's minority communities if it goes through. But all you care about is bashing democrats. You love seeing minorities lose their lives, and if you can't shoot em, might as well put them in prison.
    jeebus. race card, the last dying act of a moron.

    to the idiots who think this is going to be a good deal, it won't be. the citations will be expensive because the cops will still coerce the display, causing these people cited to be unable to pay, then be arrested anyway. you dumbasses think this is a good thing, but it changes nothing, just prolongs the process we have now.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    jeebus. race card, the last dying act of a moron.

    to the idiots who think this is going to be a good deal, it won't be. the citations will be expensive because the cops will still coerce the display, causing these people cited to be unable to pay, then be arrested anyway. you dumbasses think this is a good thing, but it changes nothing, just prolongs the process we have now.
    The fact is that you are wrong, this will be very helpful, and all of the minority advocacy groups who have worked on this for years while you have been trying to figure out ways to murder blacks and get away with it, have greeted this as the good news that it is.

    You would rather thousands of blacks and latinos be put in prison than have a Democrat look good.

    That's just a fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    The fact is that you are wrong, this will be very helpful, and all of the minority advocacy groups who have worked on this for years while you have been trying to figure out ways to murder blacks and get away with it, have greeted this as the good news that it is.

    You would rather thousands of blacks and latinos be put in prison than have a Democrat look good.

    That's just a fact.
    the only fact here is you're retarded. I've CONSISTENTLY advocated for complete decriminalization, so your race card attempt is without merit, in other words you're being a fucktard. secondly, this will NOT HELP!!!! cops will continue to ignore their commissioners directive and coerce people (notice i didn't say blacks or latinos?) PEOPLE to display their 'legal' amount so they can issue a citation. I guess this is ok for you since it's like a tax and we all know statists LOVE their taxes. I promise you, I will be saying 'I TOLD YOU SO!!!' a million times when people who have been cited are later arrested for being unable to pay the 'citation'.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    the only fact here is you're retarded. I've CONSISTENTLY advocated for complete decriminalization, so your race card attempt is without merit, in other words you're being a fucktard. secondly, this will NOT HELP!!!! cops will continue to ignore their commissioners directive and coerce people (notice i didn't say blacks or latinos?) PEOPLE to display their 'legal' amount so they can issue a citation. I guess this is ok for you since it's like a tax and we all know statists LOVE their taxes. I promise you, I will be saying 'I TOLD YOU SO!!!' a million times when people who have been cited are later arrested for being unable to pay the 'citation'.
    This isn't about you racist. This is about Governor Cuomo actually doing something about it. And that's what you can't stand.

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