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    Default four more years of bush / cheney?

    17 of mittens key advisers are former bush advisers

    mittens calls cheney a wise and knowledgeable man

    mittens is using cheney to fund raise

    this is what mittens is bringing to us - 4 more years of bush/cheney chicanery
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    Well, we've already had 12 years of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C'Thulhu View Post
    Well, we've already had 12 years of it.
    just 8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Quixote View Post
    just 8
    12. We've had Bushspending on steroids, we have the Pill Bill on steroids, we've had a surge in Afghanistan...

    Bush III sucks as President, it's time to let him go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    12. We've had Bushspending on steroids, we have the Pill Bill on steroids, we've had a surge in Afghanistan...

    Bush III sucks as President, it's time to let him go.
    that is a republican lying talking point

    iraq is over and afghanistan is winding down

    domestic spending is down

    try again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    Domestic spending is where?
    sorry about that one, it is flat due to the budget impasse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    12. We've had Bushspending on steroids, we have the Pill Bill on steroids, we've had a surge in Afghanistan...

    Bush III sucks as President, it's time to let him go.
    Yep but it appears to be just so we can go to Bush IV....

    Sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Quixote View Post
    that is a republican lying talking point

    iraq is over and afghanistan is winding down

    domestic spending is down

    try again
    Down? Compared to what? 1.2 Trillion per year deficit predicted even with an assumption of tax increases... That isn't a talking point, it is what Obama's proposed budget (so bad that not even one Democrat, not even one, voted for it in the Senate) predicted for the next 20 years...

    It is only "down" if you assume that barely slowing the growth of some programs means it is "lower"...

    Iraq was "winding down" when Bush was in office, Afghanistan's surge didn't happen until Obama was there. That it is "winding down" now doesn't change that it has done nothing permanently positive in Afghanistan. Remember how we were going to "return the focus" to Afghanistan?

    This guy is a disaster, for us and for future generations.

    I can't believe that people even try to say this guy is "fiscally conservative". It's preposterous on its face.
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    I don't think we'll ever see anything like the Bush/Cheney admin again. Even with Romney, I would expect him to focus roughly 100% more on the economy & domestic issues. I think a large part of Bush's failure w/ the economy was the fact that he basically ignored domestic policy - negligence, borne of his obsession w/ Iraq.

    And on the foreign policy front, let's definitely hope we never see anything like that again. I have enough faith in Romney that he won't be a complete idiot & pursue a careless, costly policy in the same vein as what we saw w/ the Bush admin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceler View Post
    I don't think we'll ever see anything like the Bush/Cheney admin again. Even with Romney, I would expect him to focus roughly 100% more on the economy & domestic issues. I think a large part of Bush's failure w/ the economy was the fact that he basically ignored domestic policy - negligence, borne of his obsession w/ Iraq.

    And on the foreign policy front, let's definitely hope we never see anything like that again. I have enough faith in Romney that he won't be a complete idiot & pursue a careless, costly policy in the same vein as what we saw w/ the Bush admin.
    The main problem with Bush was that Bush wasn't running the show and was clueless about what was happening around him. The PNAC war hawks and Cheney were calling the shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bijou View Post
    The main problem with Bush was that Bush wasn't running the show and was clueless about what was happening around him. The PNAC war hawks and Cheney were calling the shots.
    I'm surprised that there hasn't been more coverage & scrutiny of PNAC and its influence on that admin. That group really changed the course of history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceler View Post
    I'm surprised that there hasn't been more coverage & scrutiny of PNAC and its influence on that admin. That group really changed the course of history.
    There's been a lot of coverage, but most of it in alternative media sources. They're still around, under the name FPI (Foreign Policy Initiative).

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    LOL.. When I first saw the thread title, I just knew it must be a liberal upset with Obama. After all, he expanded the Patriot Act, left Gitmo open, and extended Bush's tax cuts, while outspending Bush 2 to 1. Still not quite there on gay marriage, but he's 'coming around,' so he says. If I were a devout liberal, this guy would have me seeing red.

    And Don, if "domestic spending" is down, it's only because the $5 trillion we've spent has not generated any more money to spend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
    LOL.. When I first saw the thread title, I just knew it must be a liberal upset with Obama. After all, he expanded the Patriot Act, left Gitmo open, and extended Bush's tax cuts, while outspending Bush 2 to 1. Still not quite there on gay marriage, but he's 'coming around,' so he says. If I were a devout liberal, this guy would have me seeing red.

    And Don, if "domestic spending" is down, it's only because the $5 trillion we've spent has not generated any more money to spend.
    Oh - are you back in "he's just like Bush?" mode?

    Seems like only yesterday you were in "he's a dangerous communist" mode...

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