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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
    Ughh! STOP IT! The answer is NOT MORE GOVERNMENT!!!!!

    If you will recall, President Obama had the idea of funding bridges, levees and roads, long before you thought of it. After Congress forked over a trillion of our tax dollars, he was forced to admit "shovel ready jobs" didn't exist. Were you asleep during all that, or what?
    Seriously ditzie... do try to stop 'thinking' for yourself. Just be like Dung and get your comments spoon fed to you.

    1) I stated the money should be spent on infrastructure, that is a part of what the Fed does. It needs to be done. Just because Obama failed at actually funding the infrastructure, doesn't mean it was the wrong idea.

    2) I did not say we needed more government ditzie. I stated the money the government spent should have (and still needs to be) done on areas where they can indeed affect jobs growth. Not on subsidizing failed enterprises such as pumping money to public unions.

    As for technology, as I said before, we are ALWAYS going to have breakthroughs and advancements in technology, because we always have. Did we need some fucking government program because we stopped producing buggies and carriages and started producing automobiles? What about when we invented the assembly line? Did government have to swoop in and save us from modern technology? No, what happens is, entrepreneurs and capitalists find new ways to make a profit with the new technology, new industries open which never existed before, and with that, new jobs that never existed before. What happened to the people who made buggy whips when we started mass producing cars? Oh, an easy solution would have been to have a government-subsidized buggy whip industry... but did we do that? Nope... we allowed capitalism to happen, and eventually, people who once made buggy whips, learned how to work on an assembly line and make cars. Today, we don't have a problem with unemployed buggy whip makers, and the government never had to lift a finger, we solved the problem all on our own.
    What exactly is the point of your above little rant ditzie? I was commenting on a part of the jobs market that the President has no control over. Or are you trying to agree with me? Do you even know what it is you were attempting to say? Or did you just go off on a rant and got lost?
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    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    Seriously ditzie... do try to stop 'thinking' for yourself. Just be like Dung and get your comments spoon fed to you.

    1) I stated the money should be spent on infrastructure, that is a part of what the Fed does. It needs to be done. Just because Obama failed at actually funding the infrastructure, doesn't mean it was the wrong idea.

    2) I did not say we needed more government ditzie. I stated the money the government spent should have (and still needs to be) done on areas where they can indeed affect jobs growth. Not on subsidizing failed enterprises such as pumping money to public unions.

    What exactly is the point of your above little rant ditzie? I was commenting on a part of the jobs market that the President has no control over. Or are you trying to agree with me? Do you even know what it is you were attempting to say? Or did you just go off on a rant and got lost?
    Again, you fucking stubborn bull-headed moron..... Obama ran on the promise of funding "shovel ready jobs" (YOUR IDEA) and won! Once he was in office and had the money appropriated, he discovered there is no such thing as a "shovel ready job" and thus, nothing to fund. So we've tried the exact thing your idiot ass is proposing, and it didn't fucking work! Now, here you are, suggesting we need to try it again???

    Federal money should not be spent on state and local construction projects, that is THEIR responsibility, not the US Government. This is exactly the kind of stuff we need to STOP doing, not do more of, you idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
    Again, you fucking stubborn bull-headed moron..... Obama ran on the promise of funding "shovel ready jobs" (YOUR IDEA) and won! Once he was in office and had the money appropriated, he discovered there is no such thing as a "shovel ready job" and thus, nothing to fund. So we've tried the exact thing your idiot ass is proposing, and it didn't fucking work! Now, here you are, suggesting we need to try it again???
    Oh, poor ditzie. you are so sad. Do you understand that there are countless jobs that need to be done? Bridges, roads, dams... not to mention an initiative as I mentioned to convert transportation that could be done?

    you seem to think that because Obama failed, it means the idea itself is a failure. That is where you are making your mistake. He couldn't pump money into projects as fast as he wanted, that does not mean the projects didn't exist.

    Federal money should not be spent on state and local construction projects, that is THEIR responsibility, not the US Government. This is exactly the kind of stuff we need to STOP doing, not do more of, you idiot.
    the above is your opinion ditzie... but many projects benefit other states as well. A hydroelectric dam typically provides electricity for more than one state. An interstate highway is used by all. There is a reason these projects are done with federal money dear ditzie.

    There are plenty of areas that can and should be cut from government spending. Infrastructure is not one of them.
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    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceler View Post
    Good golly, but you're a braindead individual.

    The economy was losing jobs; it's now gaining jobs. I hope that helped.
    Can anyone say, "worthless Congress"
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    anyone in the early civilizations: "If you are a man of note, found for
    yourself a household, and love your wife at home, as it beseems. Fill her
    belly, clothe her back. . . . But hold her back from getting the mastery.
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    Glad to see SF is on record as supporting investment in rail infrastructure! Good to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Can anyone say, "worthless Congress"
    yes, and I can also say worthless President.
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    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Buck Turgidson View Post
    Glad to see SF is on record as supporting investment in rail infrastructure! Good to know.
    your comments are irrelevant as you are a dem apologist.
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    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    Oh, poor ditzie. you are so sad. Do you understand that there are countless jobs that need to be done? Bridges, roads, dams... not to mention an initiative as I mentioned to convert transportation that could be done?
    No there is not, you fucking clueless rube! Again, Obama promised this SAME IDEA... he was given the money to do it... THEN had to sheepishly admit there is no such thing as "shovel ready" jobs. Do you not think a flaming liberal who lives to fritter away our money, would admit there is no such thing as "shovel ready" jobs, if there had been ANY WAY POSSIBLE to present that illusion?

    There are no roads, bridges and dams that need to be built, because, guess what? Whenever people need those things, they hold city council meetings or county commission meetings, or state legislature meetings, and they appropriate state and local funds to do the job, and then DO IT!

    Convert transportation? TO WHAT EXACTLY? There are at least a half dozen various ideas on what kind of "green" transportation we should have! How has the Governmental project going on this wonderful new hybrid car I keep hearing so much about, the Volt??? Selling a lot of those, are we? Before something CAN be "converted over" to something else, we first need to collectively decide which way we're going, and then the capitalist marketplace will meet the demand for whatever products we embrace as consumers. It doesn't happen the other way around, it has NEVER worked like that. If Obama, in all his liberal brilliance, couldn't make it work, I seriously doubt your retarded ass would fare much better.

    you seem to think that because Obama failed, it means the idea itself is a failure. That is where you are making your mistake. He couldn't pump money into projects as fast as he wanted, that does not mean the projects didn't exist.
    Listen to how stupid you sound. It was a liberal idea, and it FAILED! The projects DIDN'T exist, and he finally had to admit that! I don't know where you get this idea he couldn't spend our money fast enough, Congress appropriated the funds, they were there to spend as fast and furious as he wanted to, there was just nothing "shovel ready" for him to spend it on.

    the above is your opinion ditzie... but many projects benefit other states as well. A hydroelectric dam typically provides electricity for more than one state. An interstate highway is used by all. There is a reason these projects are done with federal money dear ditzie.
    Oh, I understand, there are SOME projects which require SOME federal assistance, but those are rare exceptions, and should never be made the rule.

    There are plenty of areas that can and should be cut from government spending. Infrastructure is not one of them.
    Federal funding for "bridge to nowhere" projects, are NOT what we need to be focusing on at this time. Sorry.

    ....SF, why don't you let that liberal inside of you out, he's screaming to be heard!

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    "SF, why don't you let that liberal inside of you out, he's screaming to be heard! "

    I heard he does after three tequilas and that it's really hot. But I can't confirm this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    "SF, why don't you let that liberal inside of you out, he's screaming to be heard! "

    I heard he does after three tequilas and that it's really hot. But I can't confirm this.
    Oh, I don't think it takes tequila at all. I am beginning to think SF is just as much a flaming liberal as you are, he has just done a better job at trying to portray himself as a moderate independent. Too bad all that work is for nothing, when he reveals his true liberalism like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
    Oh, I don't think it takes tequila at all. I am beginning to think SF is just as much a flaming liberal as you are, he has just done a better job at trying to portray himself as a moderate independent. Too bad all that work is for nothing, when he reveals his true liberalism like this.
    LOL

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    SF is as big a flaming liberal as me! I guess that is why we fight every day right Dixie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    "SF, why don't you let that liberal inside of you out, he's screaming to be heard! "

    I heard he does after three tequilas and that it's really hot. But I can't confirm this.
    Trust me... after three tequilas it isn't anything other than tequila that will be coming out. Mexico ruined tequila for me when I was 17.
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    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
    Oh, I don't think it takes tequila at all. I am beginning to think SF is just as much a flaming liberal as you are, he has just done a better job at trying to portray himself as a moderate independent. Too bad all that work is for nothing, when he reveals his true liberalism like this.
    LMAO... seriously ditzie... this is almost as absurd as '1/3 doesn't exist'.
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    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    LMAO... seriously ditzie... this is almost as absurd as '1/3 doesn't exist'.
    No, YOU are almost as absurd as that, which incidentally, is something I never stated.

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