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    Though I don't want obama, I'm going to love seeing Dixie and other klansman shit thier pants for four more years

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    Quote Originally Posted by apple0154 View Post
    I'll try once again. If the government is giving a person money, such as with welfare, what would be the point of giving them more so they could send some back?

    For example, let's say a person earns $20,000. If one is permitted to deduct, say, $12,000 they would owe taxes on $8,000. ($20,000 - $12,000 = $8,000.) If a person is collecting $12,000 then they don't owe any tax.
    The principle would be the point, Apple. So that people who are getting something, (in this case, an income) from the government, can have "skin in the game" as Joe Biden likes to put it. Your own brilliantly articulated point, that all income should be taxed the same, also comes into play here. Why should someone collecting $20,000 not have to pay taxes? If Donald Trump made $20,000, you'd fully expect him to pay tax on it, wouldn't you? If Mitt Romney only made $20k in stock trading last year, you'd still expect him to pay taxes, wouldn't you?

    So in essence, what you are trying to say is, all income should be taxed the same, except for government income, which shouldn't be taxed at all. The only nagging problem with that philosophy is, people would tend to want tax-free government income as opposed to regular income. Especially considering, there is no labor or work associated with the tax-free government income, no clock to punch or job to show up for, no boss to answer to, no tax forms to have to fill out, or receipts to have to keep track of.... Yeah, sounds like a pretty sweet gig to me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Though I don't want obama, I'm going to love seeing Dixie and other klansman shit thier pants for four more years
    I predict you are not going to 'enjoy' much about the next 4 yrs, if Obama wins re-election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
    I predict you are not going to 'enjoy' much about the next 4 yrs, if Obama wins re-election.
    I'll enjoy laughing in the face of klansman like you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
    Yes, again, that obviously HAS to be my point, because what I said was so totally and completely the opposite! My point is, when Bush said he was going to give everyone a tax break, he did. When Bush said he was going to take out Saddam, he did. Drill for more oil? Did it! Generally speaking, Bush did everything he said he was going to do, even when pinhead liberals didn't believe he would. To fortify this absolute truth of a point, is your pathetic attempts to take him out of context and PRETEND he didn't do what he said.... like with the "nation building" comments. You've taken what he said and applied your own interpretations, and this is how you conclude he didn't do what he said. Other than those sort of examples, you have nothing. It's really quite pathetic, but fun to watch!
    So now you have added the "generally speaking".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceler View Post
    It's cute to go w/ net jobs, but if you're going w/ that, whoever you spend days campaigning for - if they win - will not see a net gain in their admin, either. That's because we lost many millions of jobs after the crash.

    But, the condition of gaining jobs - as in, the economy adding jobs instead of losing them - is an improving condition. It's pretty simple.
    That's like saying that hitting the sidewalk is an improvement; because you're not falling any more.
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    I wonder if Obama timed the SCOTUS ruling on SB1070 and the forced Health Care Bill, so that he could delare Martial Law and suspend the election?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    he wants to give him four more years so he can keep trying....
    If at first you don't succeed, screw the voters again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granule View Post
    We all know you understand Socialism, apple. In fact, one might say that you are quite intimate with it.
    Apple keeps referring to countries that have Government Health Care and how great the are; but never seems to address the FACT that some of those same countries are having to cut back and the populace is rioting, because of the cut backs.
    It appears that he believes1+1=1, with 1 being a constant and unchanging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poet View Post
    BS. Pure BS.

    By most accounts, Bush was the worst president "ever".
    That would be "By most LIBERAL accounts..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    what puzzles me the most is why Canadians want to fuck us over.....
    Haters are going to hate.
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    Isn't just sad to watch all the new conservatives, Tea Party and Libertrian members just lose their freaking minds over the fact that the same failed anti-Obama mantras of the 2008 campaign are definitely NOT working now in light of FACTS that show an improvement over the failed "reaganomics on Steroids" policies of GW Bush?

    The OP has been proven wrong time and again, but the insipid stubborness of the forementioned advocates knows no shame or when their propaganda is working against them. Sad, but strangely entertaining!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
    The principle would be the point, Apple. So that people who are getting something, (in this case, an income) from the government, can have "skin in the game" as Joe Biden likes to put it. Your own brilliantly articulated point, that all income should be taxed the same, also comes into play here. Why should someone collecting $20,000 not have to pay taxes? If Donald Trump made $20,000, you'd fully expect him to pay tax on it, wouldn't you? If Mitt Romney only made $20k in stock trading last year, you'd still expect him to pay taxes, wouldn't you?

    So in essence, what you are trying to say is, all income should be taxed the same, except for government income, which shouldn't be taxed at all. The only nagging problem with that philosophy is, people would tend to want tax-free government income as opposed to regular income. Especially considering, there is no labor or work associated with the tax-free government income, no clock to punch or job to show up for, no boss to answer to, no tax forms to have to fill out, or receipts to have to keep track of.... Yeah, sounds like a pretty sweet gig to me!
    The strange thing is we don't see people quitting their job, divesting themselves of their assets and collecting government income. If it's such a "sweet gig" why don't folks like you go for it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    I wonder if Obama timed the SCOTUS ruling on SB1070 and the forced Health Care Bill, so that he could delare Martial Law and suspend the election?
    Actually the plan is to have the election but when the Annunaki arrive and the Nephilim come out of the caves in the earth around Dec. 21st Obama will postpone the transition of power. The war for men's souls will begin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Apple keeps referring to countries that have Government Health Care and how great the are; but never seems to address the FACT that some of those same countries are having to cut back and the populace is rioting, because of the cut backs.
    It appears that he believes1+1=1, with 1 being a constant and unchanging.
    That doesn't change the FACT medical care is 1/3 to 1/2 less expensive. Furthermore, the rioting isn't over medical care.
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