The greatest obscenity in the world?

[Damocles]

No; I was basically just commenting on your selective reading skills.

Seriously, man - I respect your smarts, and as far as the righties go here, you present the case as well as anyone. But the reading thing drives me bananas sometimes. You have such a partisan filter, and it isn't just a few times here & there...

It's a political website, man. The idea of a perfect non-partisan in the world according to Onceler is silly. Personally I see you as pretty much somebody who has the same filter, just on the other side. I just don't have to point it out every time I see it from you. Usually when I'm pointing it out I'm reading a post about how I had an opinion you disagree with that you call "selective reading"....

For some reason you seem to pay more attention to my posts and expect some sort of soft "no opinion" from me.

[Onceler]

It's a political website, man. The idea of a perfect non-partisan in the world according to Onceler is silly. Personally I see you as pretty much somebody who has the same filter, just on the other side. I just don't have to point it out every time I see it from you. Usually when I'm pointing it out I'm reading a post about how I had an opinion you disagree with that you call "selective reading"....

For some reason you seem to pay more attention to my posts and expect some sort of soft "no opinion" from me.

Opinion is fine. Partisanship is fine.

Mischaracterizing or otherwise twisting someone else's words? Not so fine.

That's it.

[Rana]

It's a political website, man. The idea of a perfect non-partisan in the world according to Onceler is silly. Personally I see you as pretty much somebody who has the same filter, just on the other side. I just don't have to point it out every time I see it from you. Usually when I'm pointing it out I'm reading a post about how I had an opinion you disagree with that you call "selective reading"....

For some reason you seem to pay more attention to my posts and expect some sort of soft "no opinion" from me.

I just expect you to be in perfect harmony with life

[Superfreak]

It is more a guy thing, women are more likely to apologize.

Yet when guys get in fights with friends, they usually have moved on within days. Women hold grudges FOREVER, often times over STUPIT SHIT.

just sayin'

[Darla]

Yet when guys get in fights with friends, they usually have moved on within days. Women hold grudges FOREVER, often times over STUPIT SHIT.

just sayin'

I've never held a grudge against any friend, male or female. And women do apologize more, it's terrible, ingrained or something. I've had to work on that a lot. The first words out of my mouth used to be "i'm sorry", and like, what the f was I apologizing for? It was ridiculous. All learned behavior; woman, appeaser.

[Lowaicue]

Yeah, I had to re-read. I'm just wondering why all the scorn for the candidate that will spend less, but none for the one you side-mention will spend more?

You have completely missed the point.

[Lowaicue]

You show yourself to be a heartless meatbag.

Now that we've traded insults can you answer about the "outrage" you show over forced abortions? How about the fact that the government in China, who owns your little city, doesn't do much for the starving peasants in China?

A bit of mote in your eye there?

So as long as China practices forced abortions it OK for Americans to go hungry.
Love your logic.

[Yurt]

does anyone else see how perfect darla and sf are for each other?

[Yurt]

Opinion is fine. Partisanship is fine.

Mischaracterizing or otherwise twisting someone else's words? Not so fine.

That's it.

then why do you often do the above?

[Lowaicue]

And you have the most consistent ability to never post anything but drab ad hom. Do you think that somebody who lives in a nation with forced abortion, starving "peasants", people in political prison, etc. should really try to pretend to have a moral high ground?

Oh... I know he lives in Hong Kong, where they are a bit nicer to personal freedoms, but the reality is, his little paradise is an island in a nation where all of the above happens. It is sick to ignore what happens under your nose, try to take a moral high ground and infer that you are better when the place you live in is governed by totalitarians.

You have no idea whether I 'ignore' the policies of China or not. This, let me remind you, because it belongs to you (as far as I am aware), is an American forum not Chinese, not Pakistani, not Kenyan, not British. Therefore it is wholly right and proper to express opinions about America without having to take or assuming to have taken 'the high ground' be it moral or immoral.

[Onceler]

then why do you often do the above?

Projection. It's not just for the movies anymore.

[Lowaicue]

You show yourself to be a heartless meatbag.

Now that we've traded insults can you answer about the "outrage" you show over forced abortions? How about the fact that the government in China, who owns your little city, doesn't do much for the starving peasants in China?

A bit of mote in your eye there?

I wish I had the time and knowledge to give you a full and comprehensive answer but I don't. Suffice it to say that improvements are coming to China, they may not be as rapid as you think they ought to be but they are much much faster than improvements to your own society. Allowing that they start from a much lower point they have still risen from an almost entirely agrarian economy to the foremost manufacturing nation in the entire world. On my first visit to China the only motor cars were mercedes stolen from Hong Kong for the personal use of party cadres. That was just over twenty years ago. China is now the biggest car market in the world.
So their economy is improving, yours at best, is stagnating.

[Damocles]

You have completely missed the point.

No, I hear the point, I just wonder at the aim.

[Damocles]

I wish I had the time and knowledge to give you a full and comprehensive answer but I don't. Suffice it to say that improvements are coming to China, they may not be as rapid as you think they ought to be but they are much much faster than improvements to your own society. Allowing that they start from a much lower point they have still risen from an almost entirely agrarian economy to the foremost manufacturing nation in the entire world. On my first visit to China the only motor cars were mercedes stolen from Hong Kong for the personal use of party cadres. That was just over twenty years ago. China is now the biggest car market in the world.
So their economy is improving, yours at best, is stagnating.

It has nowhere to go but up. And BTW, an economy isn't the same thing as personal freedom or ending political totalitarianism. Political prisoners dying, the man who wins the peace prize isn't allowed to collect. There are still many starving or barely surviving in a poverty we would never consider acceptable even for the ones you say are 'starving' in the US.

There is a huge disconnect to reality in your mind where you think that this is where such scorn should be aimed. You stand in the middle of a hurricane and tell us the weather is bad in the US because in some places it is raining.

You need to look a bit closer to home to find the "biggest obscenity" in the world.

[USFREEDOM911]

It has nowhere to go but up. And BTW, an economy isn't the same thing as personal freedom or ending political totalitarianism. Political prisoners dying, the man who wins the peace prize isn't allowed to collect. There are still many starving or barely surviving in a poverty we would never consider acceptable even for the ones you say are 'starving' in the US.

There is a huge disconnect to reality in your mind where you think that this is where such scorn should be aimed. You stand in the middle of a hurricane and tell us the weather is bad in the US because in some places it is raining.

You need to look a bit closer to home to find the "biggest obscenity" in the world.

Let's not forget all those farmers that were "relocated", so the Three Gorges Dam could be built.