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    Quote Originally Posted by apple0154 View Post
    (Excerpt) Reporter Ginger Rough, who covers the Governor's Office, in June asked the governor detailed questions about the case for a policy story about cuts to the mental-health budget. (End)

    Considering, as Governor, she has the power to cut the budget for mental health and, of course, considering her stand on ObamaCare the citizens of Arizona have every right to inquire. Would a poor person receive comparable treatment? What, exactly, are the costs for his treatment and who is paying? Would she be willing to have her son benefit from only the State supplied care? Is she paying for additional care? Would the sons/daughters of less wealthy mothers receive proper care? Does she give a damn about the less fortunate?

    There are numerous reasons full disclosure is in the interest of every Arizona citizen and it has everything to do with politics. That's evident by the timing of the request to seal the file after it had been open for 20 years.

    Gawd, those Republicans can be a deceitful bunch.
    When she got the governorship and started denying health care to others, while making sure her son had his, she becomes the target of anything. Even her own undoing in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    She had his CRIMINAL record sealed
    Yeah, because you don't know he got arrested and what for...



    What she had sealed were the details in regard to his Mental Health. And again, why is her son part of your discussion? There is zero cause to bring up an adult child here as it applies to her.

    You are a mother, would you not fight to keep your son's mental health records out of the frickin' news?

    You are trying to play "gotcha" in the most hacktackular fashion. Were this a Dem I would expect Webbway to be on it like this. It takes special hack powers to get upset about a parent making sure their child's mental health records don't hit the newspapers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD Kramer View Post
    When she got the governorship and started denying health care to others, while making sure her son had his, she becomes the target of anything. Even her own undoing in this case.
    Welcome to the board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD Kramer View Post
    When she got the governorship and started denying health care to others, while making sure her son had his, she becomes the target of anything. Even her own undoing in this case.
    So what is your solution to cutting the budget and bringing it back to being managable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    another evince lie: "she had his records sealed"

    the truth:

    But Jan Brewer's ascendance to governor, after Janet Napolitano took a position in the Obama administration, triggered Ronald to request a change.

    His attorney filed a motion on Jan. 2, 2009, to seal the case file.

    "Ronald Brewer's mother is a public figure in the State of Arizona," the motion states. "It has come to our attention that others have recently attempted to embarrass Ronald Brewer and his family by publicizing his criminal and mental-health problems," it states.

    Gaines granted the motion on Jan. 6.


    Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/electi...#ixzz1lEYODJeE

    notice the judge, her son's doctor supported the motion. the matter was adjudicated properly in the end. this is a good example of why we have the best judicial system in the world. same judge, but two different decisions after weighing arguments from both sides.
    Making the shrill screaming of the OP nothing but a partisan lynching~

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    she shouldn't be allowed to point her finger at Obama, her son is mentally ill.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD Kramer View Post
    When she got the governorship and started denying health care to others, while making sure her son had his, she becomes the target of anything. Even her own undoing in this case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Yeah, because you don't know he got arrested and what for...



    What she had sealed were the details in regard to his Mental Health. And again, why is her son part of your discussion? There is zero cause to bring up an adult child here as it applies to her.

    You are a mother, would you not fight to keep your son's mental health records out of the frickin' news?

    You are trying to play "gotcha" in the most hacktackular fashion. Were this a Dem I would expect Webbway to be on it like this. It takes special hack powers to get upset about a parent making sure their child's mental health records don't hit the newspapers.
    Her son is part of the discussion due to her opposition to ObamaCare while her son is receiving constant medical attention. If she was so concerned about her son's information becoming public why did she wait 20 years? The public interest is not in her "child's" medical records, per se. The interest lies in her financial ability to help her son while opposing a program that may help other mothers who are not financially able.

    I realize her son is now a guest of the penal system, however, I'm sure he received the best treatment prior to his run-in with the law. The point being, as a mother of an ill child, I have no doubt she obtained the best doctors and treatment available hoping to prevent exactly what occurred. Now she is fighting to prevent other "children" from receiving treatment whose mothers can not afford it.

    (Excerpt) Earlier this year, Gov. Jan Brewer signed off on a $36 million reduction in funding to the Arizona Department of Health Services as part of an effort to close the state's billion-dollar budget gap.

    The cuts, which included a wide swath of treatments and services for the mentally ill, impacted about 12,000 adults and 2,000 children not covered by the Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System, the state's Medicaid program…..

    As governor, Brewer has made several key decisions about the mental-health services on which tens of thousands of patients rely.

    Some have benefited the community; others have wreaked havoc on those needing care…..

    Despite her longtime advocacy of mental-health issues, critics blasted Brewer earlier this year for cutting services to the mentally ill.

    As of July, those with mental illnesses who don't qualify for AHCCCS now receive only basic doctor visits and generic medicine. People contemplating suicide are directed to a crisis hotline, but the state will no longer pay for them to be hospitalized…..

    The cuts that took effect July 1 include:

    • Case management. People with mental illnesses lost access to case managers who helped coordinate their care among doctors, psychiatrists and the rest of their team. Case managers check in with patients regularly to help them navigate the often confusing mental-health bureaucracy.

    • Medication. In most cases, only generic medications are now available, a cause of concern for some patients who rely on name-brand medication to treat their symptoms effectively.

    • Transportation. Clients are no longer given rides to and from appointments with their doctors.

    • Housing. The state no longer subsidizes housing for those who are not Medicaid-eligible.

    The state says people who are in housing will be allowed to stay there until a "safe and appropriate" alternative is found, although officials may eventually set a date for eviction if funding runs out.

    The governor said cutting those services was gut-wrenching, noting that for 25-plus years she had served as that population's "cheerleader."

    "It was hard. It was very, very hard," she said. (End)
    http://www.azcentral.com/news/electi...l-illness.html

    Let’s boil this all down. Cuts, from medical care and drugs to housing and transportation affecting 12,000 adults and 2000 children, by the Governor of a State claiming a financial shortfall all the while said Governor is fighting against a Federal Bill (ObamaCare) which is already providing coverage for some of those things for “children” up to 26 years of age.

    "It was hard. It was very, very hard," she said.

    Hello???? Maybe if she stopped fighting against the solution, the solution offered by the Democratic Party, the ObamaCare solution…..but, no. When it comes to politics the compassionate, conservative, pro-life Republican party says to hell with other people’s kids. They’re expendable.

    That's what this is all about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apple0154 View Post
    Noticeably dysfunctional but we all love each other.
    We are putting the fun back into dysfuntional. Except yurt who is just an asshole and Bravo who is a moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    We are putting the fun back into dysfuntional. Except yurt who is just an asshole and Bravo who is a moron.
    But they're OUR asshole and OUR moron. It's a family thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apple0154 View Post
    Her son is part of the discussion due to her opposition to ObamaCare while her son is receiving constant medical attention. If she was so concerned about her son's information becoming public why did she wait 20 years? The public interest is not in her "child's" medical records, per se. The interest lies in her financial ability to help her son while opposing a program that may help other mothers who are not financially able.

    I realize her son is now a guest of the penal system, however, I'm sure he received the best treatment prior to his run-in with the law. The point being, as a mother of an ill child, I have no doubt she obtained the best doctors and treatment available hoping to prevent exactly what occurred. Now she is fighting to prevent other "children" from receiving treatment whose mothers can not afford it.

    (Excerpt) Earlier this year, Gov. Jan Brewer signed off on a $36 million reduction in funding to the Arizona Department of Health Services as part of an effort to close the state's billion-dollar budget gap.

    The cuts, which included a wide swath of treatments and services for the mentally ill, impacted about 12,000 adults and 2,000 children not covered by the Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System, the state's Medicaid program…..

    As governor, Brewer has made several key decisions about the mental-health services on which tens of thousands of patients rely.

    Some have benefited the community; others have wreaked havoc on those needing care…..

    Despite her longtime advocacy of mental-health issues, critics blasted Brewer earlier this year for cutting services to the mentally ill.

    As of July, those with mental illnesses who don't qualify for AHCCCS now receive only basic doctor visits and generic medicine. People contemplating suicide are directed to a crisis hotline, but the state will no longer pay for them to be hospitalized…..

    The cuts that took effect July 1 include:

    • Case management. People with mental illnesses lost access to case managers who helped coordinate their care among doctors, psychiatrists and the rest of their team. Case managers check in with patients regularly to help them navigate the often confusing mental-health bureaucracy.

    • Medication. In most cases, only generic medications are now available, a cause of concern for some patients who rely on name-brand medication to treat their symptoms effectively.

    • Transportation. Clients are no longer given rides to and from appointments with their doctors.

    • Housing. The state no longer subsidizes housing for those who are not Medicaid-eligible.

    The state says people who are in housing will be allowed to stay there until a "safe and appropriate" alternative is found, although officials may eventually set a date for eviction if funding runs out.

    The governor said cutting those services was gut-wrenching, noting that for 25-plus years she had served as that population's "cheerleader."

    "It was hard. It was very, very hard," she said. (End)
    http://www.azcentral.com/news/electi...l-illness.html

    Let’s boil this all down. Cuts, from medical care and drugs to housing and transportation affecting 12,000 adults and 2000 children, by the Governor of a State claiming a financial shortfall all the while said Governor is fighting against a Federal Bill (ObamaCare) which is already providing coverage for some of those things for “children” up to 26 years of age.

    "It was hard. It was very, very hard," she said.

    Hello???? Maybe if she stopped fighting against the solution, the solution offered by the Democratic Party, the ObamaCare solution…..but, no. When it comes to politics the compassionate, conservative, pro-life Republican party says to hell with other people’s kids. They’re expendable.

    That's what this is all about.
    Long wall of text for an easy answer to one question.

    Why did she wait until the news agencies were showing an interest? Because it wasn't needed until then.

    Reality: You too would take the same action to ensure your son's privacy wasn't invaded. We know he was arrested and why, the rest of this is sick curiosity and has no bearing on her other than as a hacktackular gotcha politics attack.

    Her adult son is troubled, and has zero bearing on how she does her job any more than Obama's half brother has on his.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    We are putting the fun back into dysfuntional. Except yurt who is just an asshole and Bravo who is a moron.
    do you ever debate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Mental Health records are not, and should not be, open to the public.

    We all know he got arrested, what it was for, and that he has mental health issues.

    Yet we still don't have an explanation as to why we should be talking about the son. Why is this okey dokey any more than it is okay to go after Obama's half brother or something?
    Perhaps Brewer's budget cuts to the mental health facilities for the poor, while making sure her son is well cared for, could be an impetus? Why her? Why not all who have a son like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by apple0154 View Post
    Welcome to the board! As I always tell new guests we're like a family here. Noticeably dysfunctional but we all love each other.
    I fit in then!!!

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apple0154 View Post
    Her son is part of the discussion due to her opposition to ObamaCare while her son is receiving constant medical attention. If she was so concerned about her son's information becoming public why did she wait 20 years? The public interest is not in her "child's" medical records, per se. The interest lies in her financial ability to help her son while opposing a program that may help other mothers who are not financially able.

    I realize her son is now a guest of the penal system, however, I'm sure he received the best treatment prior to his run-in with the law. The point being, as a mother of an ill child, I have no doubt she obtained the best doctors and treatment available hoping to prevent exactly what occurred. Now she is fighting to prevent other "children" from receiving treatment whose mothers can not afford it.

    (Excerpt) Earlier this year, Gov. Jan Brewer signed off on a $36 million reduction in funding to the Arizona Department of Health Services as part of an effort to close the state's billion-dollar budget gap.

    The cuts, which included a wide swath of treatments and services for the mentally ill, impacted about 12,000 adults and 2,000 children not covered by the Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System, the state's Medicaid program…..

    As governor, Brewer has made several key decisions about the mental-health services on which tens of thousands of patients rely.

    Some have benefited the community; others have wreaked havoc on those needing care…..

    Despite her longtime advocacy of mental-health issues, critics blasted Brewer earlier this year for cutting services to the mentally ill.

    As of July, those with mental illnesses who don't qualify for AHCCCS now receive only basic doctor visits and generic medicine. People contemplating suicide are directed to a crisis hotline, but the state will no longer pay for them to be hospitalized…..

    The cuts that took effect July 1 include:

    • Case management. People with mental illnesses lost access to case managers who helped coordinate their care among doctors, psychiatrists and the rest of their team. Case managers check in with patients regularly to help them navigate the often confusing mental-health bureaucracy.

    • Medication. In most cases, only generic medications are now available, a cause of concern for some patients who rely on name-brand medication to treat their symptoms effectively.

    • Transportation. Clients are no longer given rides to and from appointments with their doctors.

    • Housing. The state no longer subsidizes housing for those who are not Medicaid-eligible.

    The state says people who are in housing will be allowed to stay there until a "safe and appropriate" alternative is found, although officials may eventually set a date for eviction if funding runs out.

    The governor said cutting those services was gut-wrenching, noting that for 25-plus years she had served as that population's "cheerleader."

    "It was hard. It was very, very hard," she said. (End)
    http://www.azcentral.com/news/electi...l-illness.html

    Let’s boil this all down. Cuts, from medical care and drugs to housing and transportation affecting 12,000 adults and 2000 children, by the Governor of a State claiming a financial shortfall all the while said Governor is fighting against a Federal Bill (ObamaCare) which is already providing coverage for some of those things for “children” up to 26 years of age.

    "It was hard. It was very, very hard," she said.

    Hello???? Maybe if she stopped fighting against the solution, the solution offered by the Democratic Party, the ObamaCare solution…..but, no. When it comes to politics the compassionate, conservative, pro-life Republican party says to hell with other people’s kids. They’re expendable.

    That's what this is all about.
    Then what cuts would you have made, in your wisdom, to balance the budget.
    And it seems that bringing up her son and trying to tie it to this, is nothing more then envy and revenge.
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