The wealthy are a burden

[Yurt]

what is your solution wiseone? end all wealth? i don't get your position.

[Yurt]

The Beatles reinforce my belief that we are slaves to the wealthy.

Ya the Beatles EARNED their wealth. Maybe the musicians don't deserve millions of dollars but they deserve to be paid well(at least the ones with a huge following).

There is no Irony. Apples and oranges.

this post makes me believe you're full of shit. musicians, especially during that time, "earned" their wealth, but other rich people who work long hours don't earn their wealth. there are many who would love to live the life of famous rock stars, but you think they "earned" their wealth.

i think you're either trolling or full of meadowmuffins.

[Yurt]

Basically saying that a many do NO work, but the ones that do are well compensated. Cappish?

no, because that is not what you said earlier. i'll take this as a backpeddle clarification to a position that i believe you have no clue what you're talking about.

tell why you believe "many" do not work?

[USFREEDOM911]

Really? Picture this. There is a giant coal mine. And some guy comes and works hard and gets ahead. But rather then giving another a chance? He buys the entire coal mine. Now he makes money doing nothing. And if you want that coal, you have to pay top dollar. You can no longer extract it, and if you want to work for him, you can do it, but you receive 1/10 of the profit and he makes 9/10 doing absolutely nothing. The reason I cant do it myself is because they hoard the wealth.

If you're at a disadvantage; then how do explain the first guy getting ahead, by working hard.
Why can't you work hard, get ahead, and then buy your own mine; unless you're trying to assert that the first coal mine was just laying around, with no one knowing about it.

[wiseones2cents]

Holy fuck, WiseOne can name four individuals who earned their wealth. Now my chances for becoming wealthy have declined, because now I have to potentially earn my wealth with skill and tallant against a statistically smaller pool than previously realized.

The difference is that no one was forced to by their records dumb dumb.

[USFREEDOM911]

You don't get it do you. The wealthy own everything. Where ever you go it is the same. You make it sound like it is so easy to find another job or one with more pay. You are another dreamer that is oblivious to reality.

So the "wealthy" own everything!!
Then how do explain how a friend of mine was able to open a tattoo shop, over a year ago, work his ass off, saved his money, opened another shop, and is thinking of a third.
He now has 10 artist working at his shops.

Oh-I forgot to add that he doesn't know how to tattoo.

[wiseones2cents]

this post makes me believe you're full of shit. musicians, especially during that time, "earned" their wealth, but other rich people who work long hours don't earn their wealth. there are many who would love to live the life of famous rock stars, but you think they "earned" their wealth.

i think you're either trolling or full of meadowmuffins.

The people that work long hours DO earn their wealth. The people that make money doing nothing(Capitalists) DONT!

Athletes, Actors, Musicians bring in a ton of revenue and thus deserve to be payed well, but I think they are overpayed also.

I was listening to Johnny Depp and he was saying he has more then enough money to live, everything else he makes is for his kids.

[USFREEDOM911]

The Beatles reinforce my belief that we are slaves to the wealthy.

Ya the Beatles EARNED their wealth. Maybe the musicians don't deserve millions of dollars but they deserve to be paid well(at least the ones with a huge following).

There is no Irony. Apples and oranges.

Did you know that if you play the Beatles records backwords, that you can hear the Devil??

[Yurt]

wiseones2cents;942016]The people that work long hours DO earn their wealth. The people that make money doing nothing(Capitalists) DONT!

capitalists don't work? where do you that notion? did you make that up?

Athletes, Actors, Musicians bring in a ton of revenue and thus deserve to be payed well, but I think they are overpayed also.

the very same thing can be said about rich people who don't "work". they bring in "a ton of revenue" but somehow you believe that revenue is bad because they don't sing, throw a ball or act. seriously...wtf.

I was listening to Johnny Depp and he was saying he has more then enough money to live, everything else he makes is for his kids.

your point?

[USFREEDOM911]

The difference is that no one was forced to by their records dumb dumb.

And no one is forced to buy anythiing, except car insurance (if you drive a car) and Obamacare, if it's not dismantled.

[wiseones2cents]

what is your solution wiseone? end all wealth? i don't get your position.

Simple. Remove the middle man. The wealthy can live wealthy but when their money runs out that is it. No more working off our backs. I support socialism at least in my sense of the word, not the form of socialism that is spread by pro-capitalists.

Do what most of these countries are doing. Nationalizing the resources/economy. Most people that are super wealthy believe it or not, attained it in some unlawful way. So dont feel bad when their gravy train is derailed.

[USFREEDOM911]

The people that work long hours DO earn their wealth. The people that make money doing nothing(Capitalists) DONT!

Athletes, Actors, Musicians bring in a ton of revenue and thus deserve to be payed well, but I think they are overpayed also.

I was listening to Johnny Depp and he was saying he has more then enough money to live, everything else he makes is for his kids.

[Yurt]

Simple. Remove the middle man. The wealthy can live wealthy but when their money runs out that is it. No more working off our backs. I support socialism at least in my sense of the word, not the form of socialism that is spread by pro-capitalists.

Do what most of these countries are doing. Nationalizing the resources. Most people that are super wealthy believe it or not, attained it in some unlawful way. So dont feel bad when their gravy train is derailed.

perhaps i missed certain parts of this thread, but what is your definition of the middle man? and what is your definition of socialism?

i don't believe, today, most people who are wealthy (or super) attained that wealth vis a vis illegal activity. that was most likely the case a hundred years ago, that at least some illegal activity took place, however, today with the stock market and real estate market, i don't believe that holds true.

[wiseones2cents]

no, because that is not what you said earlier. i'll take this as a backpeddle clarification to a position that i believe you have no clue what you're talking about.

tell why you believe "many" do not work?

Think of it more as clarifying my position rather then back peddling. There are super rich and there are rich. The super rich do not work. They hire people to do their work. The rich people work.

Why do I believe many dont work?lol Simply because they dont have to! They dont need money. They have large bank accounts. Would you work if you were a multi millionaire?lol I'd be traveling, going to dinners, fishing, basically anything I wanted to do.

You could be able to do this with the interest and investments you earn alone.

[wiseones2cents]

capitalists don't work? where do you that notion? did you make that up?

Do you think wealthy shareholders work? I know many and they dont work a single bit!

the very same thing can be said about rich people who don't "work". they bring in "a ton of revenue" but somehow you believe that revenue is bad because they don't sing, throw a ball or act. seriously...wtf.

They bring a ton of revenue or does the MIDDLE CLASS(VIA CONSUMERISM AND TAXES) bring a ton of revenue they leech from?

your point?

My point is that they are overpayed.