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    The privately held Irving, Texas, company's move marks the second significant court restructuring in the past several years. In a statement, Hostess said the current cost structure "is not competitive, primarily due to legacy pension and medical benefit obligations and restrictive work rules." It said it would be able to maintain operations thanks to a $75 million financing commitment from a group of lenders.

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    Curses on those American citizens who exercise their rights to freely associate and make contracts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sedan View Post
    Curses on those American citizens who exercise their rights to freely associate and make contracts!
    Let's see if they are smart enough to negotiate back to a viable cost structure so they can keep these jobs in the US. That would be a nice change. The company must be competitive if they are to keep their jobs and receive any of the pension they may negotiate.
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    Tough shit. Do you want the papa government to baby the poor corporation, that can't take care of itself? Conservatives always go and cry to papa government when things don't go their way, to interfere in the wisdom of the market in order to make it less efficient and baby the upper class so that it can keep its position.
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    The union didn't kill this company. The company killed itself. Want to stay in business? Don't make promises you can't keep, dumbass. Whatever happened to personal responsibility, and why don't conservatives believe that you should be held responsible for your own actions?
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    What a croc. Their product is garbage, sales of garbage are dropping. Let's blame falling sales on union workers.
    Even frikking Mcdonalds has all kinds of healthier menu options.

    By the way, how much does the CEO make? How about management in general?




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    Quote Originally Posted by sedan View Post
    Curses on those American citizens who exercise their rights to freely associate and make contracts!
    wow, that is so ironic.
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    What's Zippy going to do without all those Ho hos's?

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    Here's their non-union competition in The South, doing well financially with less expensive products:

    http://www.littledebbie.com/about/fast_facts.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by icedancer2theend View Post
    The privately held Irving, Texas, company's move marks the second significant court restructuring in the past several years. In a statement, Hostess said the current cost structure "is not competitive, primarily due to legacy pension and medical benefit obligations and restrictive work rules." It said it would be able to maintain operations thanks to a $75 million financing commitment from a group of lenders.

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    I blame it on the Democrats and place that blame right at the White House steps.

    (Excerpt) Sales of its signature Twinkies have declined a bit recently while the overall bakery-snacks category has been about flat. Nearly 36 million packages of Twinkies were sold in the year ended Dec. 25, down almost 2% from a year earlier,..(End)

    The First Lady, travelling around the country, talking about nutritious food/school lunches is driving a stake through the heart of the empty-calorie, sugar filled, preservative-laden snack business. People talk about kids being lazy, having no ambition, while they deliberately attack the "sugar fix" so many kids crave. That "go-get-'em", hyper-active attitude kids were known for has declined to the point where even the defacing of public buildings by graffit is declining.

    It's time for a Republican, Conservative, capitalistic campaign to fill our schools with snack machines. Do we want our 14 year olds to be leaning on mops or scrubbing those those toilets?

    It's time to take the country back, back to the days of child labor, malnourished children and company executives living in mansions with servants. To hell with the unions!

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    Non-union shop:
    • Sales of Little Debbie® snacks represent a third of the snack cake market, making Little Debbie® the No. 1 brand of snack cakes.

    Little Debbie® products on average sell for half that of other leading brands

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Lusgelnio View Post
    The union didn't kill this company. The company killed itself. Want to stay in business? Don't make promises you can't keep, dumbass. Whatever happened to personal responsibility, and why don't conservatives believe that you should be held responsible for your own actions?
    The company isn't "dead" and the management is working on renegotiating to a more realistic cost structure. Again, let's see if the union is smart enough to negotiate a realistic retirement that will keep the company moving and their jobs here in the US. Otherwise, I see Hostess going the way of Hershey's.

    And yes, the management should definitely have said "no" to stuff they couldn't perpetuate. Just like states, like Colorado, should have said "no" to some of the demands of teachers when creating their retirement programs.
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