Why do righties deny that Newt said this?

[Alias]

I guess you just didn't read Newt's statement before validating it. He clearly wants to fire the janitors;

" Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors"

"get rid" doesn't equate to "firing". You definitely need a reading comprehension course. Dumb ass.

[Alias]

I honestly cannot even get into a discussion on this "idea" of Newt's. He is a sociopath IMO, but it appears that many Americans share that trait.

I am amazed at the staggering lack of knowledge of American labor history that righties show. It's as if the fight for child labor laws was never even fought and won. You people are so deeply ignorant that you should be ashamed, but shame requires some knowledge and self-awarness, two things you all lack.

I am further amazed by the resentment so many righties show for children. The hateful remarks about how "spoiled" this generation is (newsflash; your parent's generation said the same about you, and theirs of them! well, the hateful ones anyway), about how everything's coming to them, about how they need to be punished, they need to be taught a lesson, they need this they need that.

I really do understand that you're all too stupid to understand that you're telegraphing your hate of your own children, but you are. And there are people like me who find it noteworthy in a horrifying sort of way.

Again, I thank God every day for the parents I had. You have to go through life with the parents you have, not the ones you want. I was very lucky. I pity the children of many of the authors of these comments. I pity them.

Darla: "I honestly cannot even get into a discussion on this "idea" of Newt's. He is a sociopath IMO, but it appears that many Americans share that trait."

So Darla thinks many Americans are "sociopaths". Why do you demonize your fellow Americans who disagree with you? We can have policy disagreements without demonizing and insulting fellow Americans. Can't we?

Calling fellow Americans "sociopaths" and threatening to pepper spray men reveals a telling bit of information about you. You're appearing more and more like you're hateful and violent. Do we need to keep an eye on you in fear of you going postal?

[Canceled]

Children on family farms were exempt from child labor laws until very recently Dixie.
Research, think...THEN post.

I still say that doing chores is probably more prevalent than you think, and those who have to do them, generally turn out to be good citizens with strong work ethic, not lazy good-for-nothings like yourself. I still think Socialist Commie nit wits like you, need to comprehend a simple fact of life, even in your Utopian dream world, people will have to do work, there is no other way for a society to function. And here is the thing, with an idea like Newt's, people have a choice, they can choose to work or not to work, it's up to them... However, in Communist regimes, people don't have a choice. Children would be forced to clean schools, or do whatever the central government authority tells them to, or face execution. I like Newt's suggestion better, but you go for whatever you think is best, okay?

[Dungheap]

To answer the original question and upon review of this thread, it's obvious that Republicans pretend Newt doesn't say the shit that he says because in order to defend it, you end up sounding like a moron, a sociopath or both.

[Alias]

To answer the original question and upon review of this thread, it's obvious that Republicans pretend Newt doesn't say the shit that he says because in order to defend it, you end up sounding like a moron, a sociopath or both.

Oh my. Newt is the devil. LOL.

[Yurt]

To answer the original question and upon review of this thread, it's obvious that Republicans pretend Newt doesn't say the shit that he says because in order to defend it, you end up sounding like a moron, a sociopath or both.

[ZappasGuitar]

I don't deny what Gingrich said; I agree with him. One of the reasons I don't have much hope for the next "working" generation is that they lack any work ethic.

I attended a small college where students would spend 6 - 7 hours every Wednesday doing work around the campus. This was good for everyone, especially the youth who came from privileged backgrounds. Why shouldn't kids work? Can anyone give me a good reason?

Are you surprised by the work ethic of the next generation?

They've been taught since birth that loyalty and hard work mean NOTHING in today's work place...they've been shown time and again that it's not what you know, but WHO you know that dictates success...they're taught over and over to get as much as they can as fast as they can and SCREW ANYONE who tries to stop them.

Corporations like to paint a pretty picture about how they are really just 'big families", but every single decision ALWAYS comes down to how much money it will make the company, not how it's going to affect the rank and file employee.

Those who worship the ALMIGHTY DOLLAR, a.k.a. CONSERVATIVES, have done all this.

[ZappasGuitar]

Darla: "I honestly cannot even get into a discussion on this "idea" of Newt's. He is a sociopath IMO, but it appears that many Americans share that trait."

So Darla thinks many Americans are "sociopaths". Why do you demonize your fellow Americans who disagree with you? We can have policy disagreements without demonizing and insulting fellow Americans. Can't we?

Calling fellow Americans "sociopaths" and threatening to pepper spray men reveals a telling bit of information about you. You're appearing more and more like you're hateful and violent. Do we need to keep an eye on you in fear of you going postal?

So the guy who's best response to a post he disagrees with is a demeaning photo now wants to lecture Darla on what is and isn't considered "demonizing".

making incessant fat jokes and constantly posting demeaning photos reveals a telling bit of info about you. it says you haven't either the IQ or the vocabulary to respond properly, so you resort to the same tired, petty put downs.

[Yurt]

So the guy who's best response to a post he disagrees with is a demeaning photo now wants to lecture Darla on what is and isn't considered "demonizing".

making incessant fat jokes and constantly posting demeaning photos reveals a telling bit of info about you. it says you haven't either the IQ or the vocabulary to respond properly, so you resort to the same tired, petty put downs.

and yet another valuable ironic contribution to the thread topic by the board nazi whiner

[Jarod]

Getting rid of them could mean any number of things, phasing them out, laying them off, shooting them in the head... where do you interpret it to mean he said we should "fire" them, and on what basis would there be to fire them? You can't just fire people for no reason, it's called "wrongful termination" and is litigated in courts every day. I think Newt is probably smart enough to realize that, but apparently you aren't.

FALSE, in most states you can fire someone for no reason. Its called a right to work state.

[apple0154]

I don't get it... is there some kind of NEW Socialism which doesn't require anyone to work? Where the government somehow manages to feed, clothe, and house people, and provide health care, and no one is working or generating any revenue? I'm genuinely interested in this idea, because it seems to defy logic and reason. The man simply made a suggestion that we ALLOW students to do janitorial work around the school, and you fuckwits are blowing a gasket over that? Really? I've got news for you idiots, if you EVER get the governmental system you all seem to be clamoring for, ALL OF US WILL BE COMMANDED TO WORK! Unless you wish to be lined up in front of a ditch and executed, you WILL WORK! Because, this is the ONLY way a Socialist Communist system of government can work. At least Newts idea is VOLUNTARY!

Oh, Dixie, Dixie, Dixie. Why do the Right have such difficulty thinking things through? As Darla noted in msg 22, “At the high schools they've been doing what Newt suggested for years. No one is FORCED to work, but they get credit and letters of recommendation for doing so. These are mainly developmentally delayed students, trying to build skills they'll need later.”

Trying to build skills they’d need later. In other words they’re learning. Unless a regular student plans to, one day, open a professional cleaning company what will they be learning by cleaning classrooms? But it goes a little deeper than that. Regarding what Darla wrote, “they get credit and letters of recommendation for doing so”, are you able to see the conflict of interest there would be in regular schools? Is the kid who refused to mop floors and empty garbage baskets going to get a good recommendation from a teacher for a summer job? Why would a school offer a recommendation in that case? Would they want other students to know it didn’t matter if they cleaned classrooms?

Kids need incentive the same as everyone else. What “coercion” will be used? While it may be optional for kids to clean the classrooms any advantage to doing so means there is an equal disadvantage for not doing so and that is coercion.

I don't deny what Gingrich said; I agree with him. One of the reasons I don't have much hope for the next "working" generation is that they lack any work ethic.

I attended a small college where students would spend 6 - 7 hours every Wednesday doing work around the campus. This was good for everyone, especially the youth who came from privileged backgrounds. Why shouldn't kids work? Can anyone give me a good reason?

I can offer a reason. As a parent why would I want to pay thousands of dollars so my son or daughter can enjoy the privilege of cutting the campus lawn? If they attend school 5 days a week and every Wednesday is devoted to campus upkeep that’s 20% of the costs of tuition.

(Excerpt) In 2011-12, 44 percent of all full-time undergraduate college students attend a four-year college that has published charges of less than $9,000 per year for tuition and fees.
At the other end of the spectrum, approximately 28 percent of full-time private nonprofit four-year college students are enrolled in institutions charging $36,000 or more yearly in tuition and fees. (End)
http://www.collegeboard.com/student/...t-up/4494.html

That’s anywhere from $1,800 to $7,200/yr. I don’t what it’s like where you are but in my neighborhood I can get a lot of grass cutting and flower planting for that money! Furthermore, we face the same problem I mentioned concerning recommendations for summer jobs.

[apple0154]

I think they see nothing wrong with going back to the Guilded Age.

A lot of similarities between Newts beloved Guilded Age and today.

"An era of intense political partisanship, the Gilded Age was also an era of reform. The Civil Service Act sought to curb government corruption by requiring applicants for certain governmental jobs to take a competitive examination. The Interstate Commerce Act sought to end discrimination by railroads against small shippers and the Sherman Antitrust Act outlawed business monopolies.

These years also saw the rise of the Populist crusade. Burdened by heavy debts and falling farm prices, many farmers joined the Populist party, which called for an increase in the amount of money in circulation, government assistance to help farmers repay loans, tariff reductions, and a graduated income tax.

Mark Twain called the late nineteenth century the "Gilded Age." By this, he meant that the period was glittering on the surface but corrupt underneath. In the popular view, the late nineteenth century was a period of greed and guile: of rapacious Robber Barons, unscrupulous speculators, and corporate buccaneers, of shady business practices, scandal-plagued politics, and vulgar display."
http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/mod..._age/index.cfm

Newt is showing us just how far out of touch with modern society he is.

Certain folks like Newt confuse the American Dream with the Law of the Jungle. I suppose we can’t blame him. Alan Greenspan, while overseeing the Federal Reserve, knew of the problems in the late 90s that could lead to the financial crises and his belief was when enough people lost money others wouldn’t invest and the problem would correct itself. Like other Righties who destroyed their own reputations after decades of building them Greenspan admitted before Congress he was wrong. He admitted his philosophy, his understanding of how the world worked, was wrong.

Unfortunately, for all, the Right have a very slow learning curve.

[Alias]

So the guy who's best response to a post he disagrees with is a demeaning photo now wants to lecture Darla on what is and isn't considered "demonizing".

making incessant fat jokes and constantly posting demeaning photos reveals a telling bit of info about you. it says you haven't either the IQ or the vocabulary to respond properly, so you resort to the same tired, petty put downs.

The photos were originally for Dune. Then it expanded to anyone who complained about them when it was none of their damn business. Are you really this fucking stupid? It's very simple. The photos are only for Dune.....unless you complain about them, then you will get one for whining about something that is none of your business.

I can't make it any simpler. If you can't still figure it out, you will need to find an adult to explain it for you.

[Alias]

Certain folks like Newt confuse the American Dream with the Law of the Jungle. I suppose we can’t blame him. Alan Greenspan, while overseeing the Federal Reserve, knew of the problems in the late 90s that could lead to the financial crises and his belief was when enough people lost money others wouldn’t invest and the problem would correct itself. Like other Righties who destroyed their own reputations after decades of building them Greenspan admitted before Congress he was wrong. He admitted his philosophy, his understanding of how the world worked, was wrong.

Unfortunately, for all, the Right have a very slow learning curve.

How idiotic is it to want the govt to direct our lives? The govt can't even run the VA well and you want it to run all of our health care. That's stupid.

[ZappasGuitar]

The photos were originally for Dune. Then it expanded to anyone who complained about them when it was none of their damn business. Are you really this fucking stupid? It's very simple. The photos are only for Dune.....unless you complain about them, then you will get one for whining about something that is none of your business.

I can't make it any simpler. If you can't still figure it out, you will need to find an adult to explain it for you.

Make all the excuses you need. Whatever you need to do that allows you justify to yourself why you are being a petty, hypocritical douchebag.