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    Default Will World War III be between the U.S. and China?

    Low, I would especially be interested in what you have to say about this article by Max Hastings. I was in Saigon earlier this year and I watched some protesters carrying banners denouncing China's intention to try and take over the Spratly Islands. Currently the Philippines, China and Vietnam have all got claims on the islands but China is acting like a big bully in the playground.

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    No. I was actually having a rather long conversation about this the other night. China cannot back up their claim to the Spratlys, nor would it be smart for them to try. The only possible avenue of military expansion China has is S.E Asia or India.
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    They already own the USA.

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    I'd say the chances of WW3 declined, somewhat terminally, on August 6th 1945.

    It's all about the regional war nowadays. World wars are, like, the olden days, Grandpa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charver View Post
    I'd say the chances of WW3 declined, somewhat terminally, on August 6th 1945.

    It's all about the regional war nowadays. World wars are, like, the olden days, Grandpa.
    you make a good point and the cold war seems to bolster this point. i don't know if i'm ready to agree to 'terminally', however, the chances are far less since the world has gained access to the nuclear weapon. i don't believe, however, that another world war is 'somewhat' terminal, both world wars were not predicted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye View Post
    you make a good point and the cold war seems to bolster this point. i don't know if i'm ready to agree to 'terminally', however, the chances are far less since the world has gained access to the nuclear weapon. i don't believe, however, that another world war is 'somewhat' terminal, both world wars were not predicted.
    WWI was certainly very predictable with the GB vs. Germany arms race and the, rather polite, assignment of sides in the years preceding actual war.

    In the same way WWII was a possibility, which became a probability due to some rather bad decision making.

    As a race we're particularly stupid but, call me old fashioned, but i'm putting my trust in the theory of self preservation in this nuclear age.

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    Wow, pretty much the only inhabitants of the islands are military expeditions from people trying to claim it. They are ma
    king quite a big deal about such a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander Hamilton View Post
    Wow, pretty much the only inhabitants of the islands are military expeditions from people trying to claim it. They are ma
    king quite a big deal about such a thing.
    remember the falklans
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    Quote Originally Posted by charver View Post
    WWI was certainly very predictable with the GB vs. Germany arms race and the, rather polite, assignment of sides in the years preceding actual war.

    In the same way WWII was a possibility, which became a probability due to some rather bad decision making.

    As a race we're particularly stupid but, call me old fashioned, but i'm putting my trust in the theory of self preservation in this nuclear age.
    you intertwine possibility with predictability. they are two very different concepts.

    WWI was not predicted. and i'm not talking about just a few months prior, i'm talking about the same time frame tom is in the OP. i can't predict a train is going to run you over, but if i see you standing on the tracks whil[st]e a train is 1 second away from hitting you, then i can safely say, my prediction that you would get hit is spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye View Post
    you intertwine possibility with predictability. they are two very different concepts.

    WWI was not predicted. and i'm not talking about just a few months prior, i'm talking about the same time frame tom is in the OP. i can't predict a train is going to run you over, but if i see you standing on the tracks whil[st]e a train is 1 second away from hitting you, then i can safely say, my prediction that you would get hit is spot on.
    If you buy into the Fischer thesis then WWI was not only predicted but was the actual goal of Germany in the years preceding 1914.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charver View Post
    WWI was certainly very predictable with the GB vs. Germany arms race and the, rather polite, assignment of sides in the years preceding actual war.

    In the same way WWII was a possibility, which became a probability due to some rather bad decision making.

    As a race we're particularly stupid but, call me old fashioned, but i'm putting my trust in the theory of self preservation in this nuclear age.
    A war with China could easily start over the Spratly Islands or Taiwan, especially if China gets in the shit economically.

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    Bump for Low.

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    Would really be more like the apocalypse than one of those incidents we had early in the last century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Nero View Post
    Would really be more like the apocalypse than one of those incidents we had early in the last century.
    That's assuming either belligerents go nuclear, which is unlikely for a multitude of reasons.
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