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    Question Where are the jobs?

    Republicans claim that tax cuts create jobs.


    Where are the jobs?

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    Taxes have not been cut for over 8 years. A fact you cannot seem to get through your pathetically empty skull.

    However, you might ask those who spent 890 billion dollars on "shovel ready jobs" where the fuck those jobs are....

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    The tax cuts were extended in December.


    Republicans said tax cuts would produce jobs.


    Where are they?

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    You are really a mindless fucking idiot. Totally brainless.

    Extending the tax cuts simply kept tax rates at the same level they were set at in 2003. Keeping tax rates the same is not a tax CUT, no matter how you want to spin it.

    But we were promised jobs from the stimulus package. So, where are the jobs promised for the $890 billion dollars we spent?

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    Thanks to the Republican insistence that tax cuts produce jobs, federal income and capital gains tax rates haven't risen in over a decade.


    What has risen since 2001?


    Unemployment.


    Deficits.


    Wealth - for the top 3%.

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    Why don't you ask the president where the jobs are? Obama PROMISED if we passed an $837 billion stimulus bill, the unemployment rate would not go above 8%... it's been near 10% since then. He promised the stimulus would create millions of "shovel ready jobs" ....shovels are ready, where are the jobs?

    This is almost comical, if it weren't so serious! You get your guy elected, with a congress completely under the control of your party, you can pass any legislation you wish, and Republicans can't stop a thing.... and you do pass all kinds of things you promise are going to help us.... only to have it all go to hell and turn to shit.... THEN.... you want to turn around and blame this on the Republicans!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
    Why don't you ask the president where the jobs are? Obama PROMISED if we passed an $837 billion stimulus bill, the unemployment rate would not go above 8%... it's been near 10% since then. He promised the stimulus would create millions of "shovel ready jobs" ....shovels are ready, where are the jobs?
    They said 8.5%. It's currently 9.1%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceler View Post
    They said 8.5%. It's currently 9.1%.
    No, they said it wouldn't go above 8%... it did that almost immediately, and hasn't been anywhere near it since.

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    Did Bush promise jobs if taxes were cut?

    Were taxes cut?

    Were the tax cuts extended?

    Where are the jobs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by \\(\(\/)/)// View Post
    Did Bush promise jobs if taxes were cut?

    Were taxes cut?

    Were the tax cuts extended?

    Where are the jobs?
    The unemployment average under Bush was the second lowest of the century. If you look at the stats for when the Bush Tax Cuts were enacted, you will find a precipitous drop in unemployment, taking it down to 4%, which is essentially "full employment." It wasn't until AFTER Obama was elected, and enacted his health care reforms, that unemployment spiked to near 10% and has remained there. ASK OBAMA WHERE THE JOBS ARE! ASK OBAMA WHERE THE JOBS WENT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
    The unemployment average under Bush was the second lowest of the century. If you look at the stats for when the Bush Tax Cuts were enacted, you will find a precipitous drop in unemployment, taking it down to 4%, which is essentially "full employment." It wasn't until AFTER Obama was elected, and enacted his health care reforms, that unemployment spiked to near 10% and has remained there. ASK OBAMA WHERE THE JOBS ARE! ASK OBAMA WHERE THE JOBS WENT!
    You are so full of shit!

    Listen to the partisan hack and his claim that there was a "precipitous" drop in the unemployment rate after the Bush tax cuts...LOL...if only!

    AFTER the Bush tax cuts from 2001 were passed..."The Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001", passed June 7, 2001, unemployment went UP!

    Here are the Bureau of Labor Statistics numbers:

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
    2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0

    2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7

    The next round..."The Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003", was passed by the United States Congress on May 23, 2003 and signed into law by President George W. Bush on May 28, 2003, FINALLY started to bring the numbers down from 6.3...however, Bush NEVER SAW NUMBERS AS LOW as he had at the beginning of his first term...BUT IF LOW TAXES CREATE JOBS, THEN WHY DID UNEMPLOYMENT GO UP?
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    You are so full of shit!

    Listen to the partisan hack and his claim that there was a "precipitous" drop in the unemployment rate after the Bush tax cuts...LOL...if only!

    AFTER the Bush tax cuts from 2001 were passed..."The Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001", passed June 7, 2001, unemployment went UP!

    Here are the Bureau of Labor Statistics numbers:

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
    2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0

    2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7

    The next round..."The Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003", was passed by the United States Congress on May 23, 2003 and signed into law by President George W. Bush on May 28, 2003, FINALLY started to bring the numbers down from 6.3...however, Bush NEVER SAW NUMBERS AS LOW as he had at the beginning of his first term...BUT IF LOW TAXES CREATE JOBS, THEN WHY DID UNEMPLOYMENT GO UP?
    ROFLMAO.... seriously?

    After the 2001 tax cuts, are you seriously claiming it was the tax cuts that caused unemployment to go up in the last quarter? Not 9/11, but the tax cuts? THAT is what you want to pretend was the cause?

    As for 2003, the tax cuts enacted at the end of MAY as you stated.... the unemployment rate in JUNE went up.... did you really think they were going to have an IMMEDIATE affect? Take a look at the REST of 2003. What happened to the unemployment rate AFTER JUNE? Notice a particular direction it was heading?
    Quote from Cypress:
    "Scientists don't use "averages". Maybe armchair supertools on message boards ascribe some meaning to "averages" between two random data points. And maybe clueless amatuers "draw a straight line" through two random end data points to define a "trend". Experts don't.

    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    ROFLMAO.... seriously?

    After the 2001 tax cuts, are you seriously claiming it was the tax cuts that caused unemployment to go up in the last quarter? Not 9/11, but the tax cuts? THAT is what you want to pretend was the cause?

    As for 2003, the tax cuts enacted at the end of MAY as you stated.... the unemployment rate in JUNE went up.... did you really think they were going to have an IMMEDIATE affect? Take a look at the REST of 2003. What happened to the unemployment rate AFTER JUNE? Notice a particular direction it was heading?
    Did you see anywhere in my post where I claimed it was the 01 tax cuts that caused unemployment to climb in 2001? One wonders why then you'd make such a ridiculous statement?

    Maybe because your just a partisan hack who refuses to admit that the RightWing mantra that lower taxes creates jobs is just plain bullshit?

    Maybe you could climb up Dixie's ass for his outlandish claims that unemployment under the Shrub "dropped precipitously to 4%" after the Bush tax cuts were enacted?

    Nope, you'd rather play word games and make up bullshit so you can taunt another poster...we understand.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapped in the Brain View Post
    The next round..."The Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003", was passed by the United States Congress on May 23, 2003 and signed into law by President George W. Bush on May 28, 2003, FINALLY started to bring the numbers down from 6.3...however, Bush NEVER SAW NUMBERS AS LOW as he had at the beginning of his first term...BUT IF LOW TAXES CREATE JOBS, THEN WHY DID UNEMPLOYMENT GO UP?
    We've not seen 6.3% unemployment under Obama... that would be a blessing... Liberals would be lauding Obama as the greatest job-creating president of all time, if we could get back to 6.3%.... but Obama has been nowhere near that number, and he won't get anywhere close to it.

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    I would LOVE to see the DNC try this approach. I would love to see the MSM take up the cry "where are the jobs from the tax "cuts" last December.

    Maybe you should suggest it to them. It would be fun to watch the DNC self-destruct on the completely mindless hubris the far left twits are coming out with these days.

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