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    Quote Originally Posted by Damn Yankee View Post
    Licensing by its very nature is discriminatory. The state needs to discriminate between those who meet the qualifications and those who don't.
    "The state needs to discriminate between those who meet the qualifications and those who don't".

    I would challenge you to list those qualifications and the reasons for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    I'm sure He'll be slightly annoyed, but I'm not about to run around trying to save humanity, when I'm far too busy trying to save myself.
    Good luck with that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damn Yankee View Post
    Actually: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness."
    Ahh so please explain to me, since undoubtably Thomas Jefferson had heard of "God" and purposefully referenced a vauge "creator" and did not specifically identify any deity as being this creator, how is this a religeous principle? The only principle established here is that human rights are innate and are not granted to us by governments.

    Our fournding fathers founded our government on secular principles. That's an established historical fact. Religion was specifically excluded from governance by our founding fathers with the expressely intended purpose to mitigate religions corrupting influence on government and,conversely, governments corrupting influence on religion. It has worked too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    It's neither.... it is actually a curse
    depends on who you marry. My first marriage was a curse and the most miserable time of my adult life. My second marriage has been a blessing and has been the happiest period of my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Ahh so please explain to me, since undoubtably Thomas Jefferson had heard of "God" and purposefully referenced a vauge "creator" and did not specifically identify any deity as being this creator, how is this a religeous principle? The only principle established here is that human rights are innate and are not granted to us by governments.
    There's nothing vague about a Creator. Notice that he capitalized it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damn Yankee View Post
    There's nothing vague about a Creator. Notice that he capitalized it.
    Realy? Nothing vauge about "creator"? Well then who is this "creator"? God? Buddha? Harpo Marx? The flying spaghetti monster? Yo momma?
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    OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH, he Capitalized it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damn Yankee View Post
    There's nothing vague about a Creator. Notice that he capitalized it.
    So, SM, are you making the claim that the founding fathers (Jefferson in particular) meant the biblical God when they actually wrote "Creator"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    So, SM, are you making the claim that the founding fathers (Jefferson in particular) meant the biblical God when they actually wrote "Creator"?
    what creator do you think they referred to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    what creator do you think they referred to?
    I think they left it open to any and all religions.

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    You know DY...I don't understand your opposition to gay marriage. I mean it's very inconsistant. You're a pro-life conservative but you oppose gays and gay marriage? I mean why hell, who has less abortions then homosexuals? Leave these people the fuck alone for christs sake. Here's an entire class of people guarenteed never to have an abortion and here you are throwing them under the bus? It just aint fucking consistant man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    I think they left it open to any and all religions.
    what religions refer to a creator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    what religions refer to a creator?
    What religion does not refer to a Creator? Buddhism probably doesn't, but the rest all have some sort of creation myth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    What religion does not refer to a Creator? Buddhism probably doesn't, but the rest all have some sort of creation myth.
    a creation story is not the same as a creator. what religions specifically refer to a creator and more specifically, a creator of life, this earth etc. or is it your position that "Creator" was not meant to be a noun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    a creation story is not the same as a creator. what religions specifically refer to a creator and more specifically, a creator of life, this earth etc. or is it your position that "Creator" was not meant to be a noun?
    I am unaware of a religion with a deity that does not have a Creator who made the world.

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