rupert murdoch scandal

[SmarterthanYou]

someone give me the readers digest version please

[Aoxomoxoa]

someone give me the readers digest version please

Here is a good start.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rebekah-bro...085922523.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/phone-hacking

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...s-cardinal-sin

[SmarterthanYou]

well, that wasn't really a readers digest version, but let's see if I have this right.


brooks, CEO of news of the world, handles a matter of criminal acts committed by SOMEONE in her company, and lots of people want to charge her with the crime? as well as murdoch?

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well, that wasn't really a readers digest version, but let's see if I have this right.


brooks, CEO of news of the world, handles a matter of criminal acts committed by SOMEONE in her company, and lots of people want to charge her with the crime? as well as murdoch?

You have to understand that Tom loathes Murdoch- that a Sunday rag sheet whose American equivalent is the Enquirer acted deplorably, is just so shocking </sarcasm> Especially in light of how the paparazzi in the UK behave. Chances are the Daily Caller has/does stoop to the same level-but it isn't owned by Murdoch.

[Aoxomoxoa]

You have to understand that Tom loathes Murdoch- that a Sunday rag sheet whose American equivalent is the Enquirer acted deplorably, is just so shocking </sarcasm> Especially in light of how the paparazzi in the UK behave. Chances are the Daily Caller has/does stoop to the same level-but it isn't owned by Murdoch.

I really imagine why anybody would hate cuddly Rupert?

http://gawker.com/5820243/jon-stewar...-world-scandal

http://gawker.com/5821626/fox-and-fr...acking-scandal

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I really imagine why anybody would hate cuddly Rupert?

http://gawker.com/5820243/jon-stewar...-world-scandal

As per usual Tom you ignore the facts in order to push your agenda. The facts are that a few scurrilous people acted in a deplorable way. There are NO facts that Murdoch was either knowledgeable or complicit-. The idea that a rag sheet would stoop to this level of behavior is neither shocking nor surprising. These kinds of publications are riff with below the belt journalism. Go after the actual perpetrators- if at the end of the day FACTS can be shown to tie Murdoch to knowledge and therefore complicity, then you can bring your pitchfork to the bonfire with at least a scant bit of dignity.

[SmarterthanYou]

in the end of it though, are some of you lefties actually hoping murdoch is charged with the crimes of his underlings?

[Dungheap]

in the end of it though, are some of you lefties actually hoping murdoch is charged with the crimes of his underlings?

I hope that corporate managers anywhere are held accountable for the crimes of the people that they manage where the crimes were committed in the course of employment and for the benefit of the corporation and the criminality is sufficiently widespread and pervasive that corporate management knew or should have known that it was occurring and did not put an end to it.

By the way, the CEO of Dow Jones & Co. just resigned. Nothing to see here. Move along.

[SmarterthanYou]

I hope that corporate managers anywhere are held accountable for the crimes of the people that they manage where the crimes were committed in the course of employment and for the benefit of the corporation and the criminality is sufficiently widespread and pervasive that corporate management knew or should have known that it was occurring and did not put an end to it.

By the way, the CEO of Dow Jones & Co. just resigned. Nothing to see here. Move along.

then you would like to see Obama held accountable for the gun walking scandals, right?

[Dungheap]

then you would like to see Obama held accountable for the gun walking scandals, right?

I haven't really followed it so I don't know. What's the Reader's Digest version?

[SmarterthanYou]

operation fast and furious, started during the bush years, was started to shut down the alleged iron pipeline of guns to mexican cartels. sometime in the last 2 years, that operation became operation gunrunner, where ATF offices encouraged gun dealers to conclude suspicious sales in the hopes of 'tracking them to major cartels', all in the official pretense of bringing down drug cartels. border patrol agent brian terry became a victim of this operation by being killed in a skirmish where some of these illicitly sold guns turned up.

Now, it turns out that not only did gunrunner appear to violate numerous laws, but an operation out of florida called 'castaway' also seems to have indications that ATF offices cleared weapons sales to known straw purchasers for export to central america.

Theres more detailed info here, http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sho...plaining-to-do

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operation fast and furious, started during the bush years, was started to shut down the alleged iron pipeline of guns to mexican cartels. sometime in the last 2 years, that operation became operation gunrunner, where ATF offices encouraged gun dealers to conclude suspicious sales in the hopes of 'tracking them to major cartels', all in the official pretense of bringing down drug cartels. border patrol agent brian terry became a victim of this operation by being killed in a skirmish where some of these illicitly sold guns turned up.

Now, it turns out that not only did gunrunner appear to violate numerous laws, but an operation out of florida called 'castaway' also seems to have indications that ATF offices cleared weapons sales to known straw purchasers for export to central america.

Theres more detailed info here, http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sho...plaining-to-do

I also started a thread yesterday about this- It may be that Obama himself knew of this operation and that it is behind his words to Sarah Brady regarding her inquiry about gun legislation that it is happening "behind the radar"- indicating that perhaps the WH hoped to use "operation gunrunner as an excuse to pass gun legislation.

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in the end of it though, are some of you lefties actually hoping murdoch is charged with the crimes of his underlings?

I submit to you, that yes, that is what they hope for-could you not hear the gnashing of their teeth for Murdoch's blood?

[NOVA]

someone give me the readers digest version please

Some that works for a newspaper that is part of Murdocks holdings, hacked into the phone messages of a kidnapped girl.....much like some hacker hacked into the email account of Sarah Palin and invaded her privacy.......and the pinheads are trying to make a federal case out of the former, as they downplayed the latter.....

[Aoxomoxoa]

Some that works for a newspaper that is part of Murdocks holdings, hacked into the phone messages of a kidnapped girl.....much like some hacker hacked into the email account of Sarah Palin and invaded her privacy.......and the pinheads are trying to make a federal case out of the former, as they downplayed the latter.....

The "kidnapped girl" was had already been murdered and they hacked into her voicemail to delete some messages as it was full. This gave the family and the police the false hope that she was still alive. How you can possibly compare that with Palin is beyond me.They also hacked into the accounts of several thousand others including 7/7 victims and now the FBI is investigating whether 9/11 relatives accounts were hacked as well.