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    Yet more ignorance from the left.
    Quote from Cypress:
    "Scientists don't use "averages". Maybe armchair supertools on message boards ascribe some meaning to "averages" between two random data points. And maybe clueless amatuers "draw a straight line" through two random end data points to define a "trend". Experts don't.

    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    Yet more ignorance from the left.
    So trickle down has worked in your opinion! We're now enjoying the fruits of years of conservative 'market is God' ideology? Well, maybe the top 5% and people like Paris Hilton and God knows she needs tax breaks.

    Don't worry though, if we elect more extremist right wingers things will get better by doing same things that got us into this mess. Hey, makes sense to Faux viewers.
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    only uneducated boobs and people who don't care much for money are struggling.

    Here is where dems will get killed in 12.

    The top 20% are doing great, granted
    The next 60% want to and expect to get into that top 20
    setting your whole speal on the bottom 40% is why dems haven't done shit since Reagan

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    Corporate America is hoarding a massive pile of cash.




    It just doesn't want to spend it hiring anyone.


    Companies are sitting on $1.8 trillion in cash, roughly one-quarter more than at the beginning of the recession, and as several major firms report impressive earnings this week, the money continues to flow into firms' coffers.




    Yet all the good news from big business hasn't translated into much promise for jobless Americans, leading many to wonder: If corporations are sitting on so much money, why aren't they hiring more workers?




    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...071405960.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crashk View Post
    So trickle down has worked in your opinion! We're now enjoying the fruits of years of conservative 'market is God' ideology? Well, maybe the top 5% and people like Paris Hilton and God knows she needs tax breaks.

    Don't worry though, if we elect more extremist right wingers things will get better by doing same things that got us into this mess. Hey, makes sense to Faux viewers.
    lol... wow... thanks for contributing yet MORE nonsense to the thread.

    Yes, we enjoyed 20 plus years of benefits from the fruits of what Reagan and Volcker accomplished. Have there been speed bumps along the way? Absolutely. It started with Bush Sr. raising taxes 90/91 recession, it continued with Clinton repealing Glass Steagall (which led to the economic meltdown) and Clinton raising corp tax rates, it continued further with insane spending by Bush Jr. and Obama... which furthers uncertainty in the markets.

    Right now, it is not the trickle down theory killing us... it is the misuse of Keynesian theory that is hurting the economy. That coupled with needless regulations being added and a failure to re implement PROVEN regulations is killing us. When you continue to outspend revenue by $1.5 Trillion per year with NO plan to pay for it, corporations (small and large) are going to sit on the sidelines and not resume hiring (as the costs of firing are too high).
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    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    those 9.2% practically illiterate won't get the jobs when they do start spending.

    Obama loves trickle down when his ass is in a jam.
    ie tax cuts he's doling out multiple times.

    BURN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crashk View Post
    So trickle down has worked in your opinion! We're now enjoying the fruits of years of conservative 'market is God' ideology? Well, maybe the top 5% and people like Paris Hilton and God knows she needs tax breaks.

    Don't worry though, if we elect more extremist right wingers things will get better by doing same things that got us into this mess. Hey, makes sense to Faux viewers.
    side note crash... about two thirds of the Bush tax cuts went to the middle and lower classes. Which is why Obama extended that portion. The idiots on the left keep calling it 'tax cuts for the rich' because on a per capita basis they naturally get more dollars than the lower and middle classes due to the amount of money they make and are taxed.
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    "Scientists don't use "averages". Maybe armchair supertools on message boards ascribe some meaning to "averages" between two random data points. And maybe clueless amatuers "draw a straight line" through two random end data points to define a "trend". Experts don't.

    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    side note crash... about two thirds of the Bush tax cuts went to the middle and lower classes.


    Cite?

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    A distributional analysis of the 2001-08 tax changes shows that the top 1% of earners (making over $620,442) received 38% of the tax cuts.




    The lower 60% of filers (making less than $67,715) received less than 20% of the total benefit of Bush’s tax policies.








    http://www.epi.org/page/-/EPI_PolicyMemorandum_184.pdf

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    Like Tom Hartmann says... if I give you a credit card that you don't have to pay back in your lifetime you can live large, but the bill will come due on your children. More money for the rich and communist corporations will only dig our hole deeper. Supply side economics has failed, get out of the basement and look around.

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    Tom hartman is a tool selling to fools like you

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