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    Default Truth, Part of the strategy

    All the revealing information about the global elites and their plans to rule the world is now basically out in the open. Just googlee it; YOu can read all about it. I believe part of the plan, which truly is spiritual in nature (meaning it transcends energy states; it's a quantum thing), is to have people knowingly opt in or out of the plan, to identify who will serve, and who would rebel. They have plans for the rebels. They always do.

    Who will lie for us?
    Who is loyal?
    Who will kiss the ring of satan?

    Just remember, you have free will. We can opt out.
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    my husband and i have opted out!

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    Just remember, you have free will.

    No we don't.

    We have will, but to call it free is an absolute misnomer.

    We make choices based on our accumulated conditioning. We have no control over how we are conditioned, ergo will isn't free....
    Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.

    Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnyOldIron View Post
    Just remember, you have free will.

    No we don't.

    We have will, but to call it free is an absolute misnomer.

    We make choices based on our accumulated conditioning. We have no control over how we are conditioned, ergo will isn't free....
    We do. You can "recondition" yourself in many different ways. To say we have no control over such things is defeatist and an extremist position, to say the least.

    You sound like your apologizing for any wrong done by another, "They couldn't help it, it was part of their conditioning!"

    It is simply rubbish.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

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    We are trained in the ways of our culture as children. If we stray too far we are labeled as insane, or something of that nature and are likely to be incarcerated.
    Shunned and outcast at the least.

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    You can "recondition" yourself in many different ways. To say we have no control over such things is defeatist and an extremist position, to say the least.

    You are talking to someone who thinks Einstein advocated never using common sense, so he has completely abandoned the notion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    We are trained in the ways of our culture as children. If we stray too far we are labeled as insane, or something of that nature and are likely to be incarcerated.
    Shunned and outcast at the least.

    I thought you were leaving? Don't you know it's rude to leave an adios thread and then not go? What's the matter, couldn't break the habit cold turkey? Hmmm? ...It's a tough monkey to shake!

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    We do. You can "recondition" yourself in many different ways. To say we have no control over such things is defeatist and an extremist position, to say the least.

    You sound like your apologizing for any wrong done by another, "They couldn't help it, it was part of their conditioning!"

    It is simply rubbish.

    Every perception you have, of any situation or item, is conditioned. If we had control of this conditioning process, then we could control every aspects of our lives, including the actions of others.

    Are you claiming that we have that ability?

    This is not defeatist or extremist, just because you like to think of yourself as some independent island. Things that you don't like can still be true.
    Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.

    Friedrich Nietzsche

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    You are talking to someone who thinks Einstein advocated never using common sense, so he has completely abandoned the notion.

    "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein

    You are arguing against Einstein, Dixie, not me. Unless of course you wish to rewrite what he wrote again, so it makes your point...

    'Common sense' is a non-entity, it is nothing more than prejudices and assumptions shared in common by a society. It has nothing to do with reason or reality.
    Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.

    Friedrich Nietzsche

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    I thought you were leaving? Don't you know it's rude to leave an adios thread and then not go? What's the matter, couldn't break the habit cold turkey? Hmmm? ...It's a tough monkey to shake!

    Says a poster who has stomped off on many occasions, only to come sulking back... ha ha ha!
    Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.

    Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnyOldIron View Post
    We do. You can "recondition" yourself in many different ways. To say we have no control over such things is defeatist and an extremist position, to say the least.

    You sound like your apologizing for any wrong done by another, "They couldn't help it, it was part of their conditioning!"

    It is simply rubbish.

    Every perception you have, of any situation or item, is conditioned. If we had control of this conditioning process, then we could control every aspects of our lives, including the actions of others.

    Are you claiming that we have that ability?

    This is not defeatist or extremist, just because you like to think of yourself as some independent island. Things that you don't like can still be true.
    We can control this conditioning process, we can free ourselves, or we can enslave others. The illuminati uses abuse and torture to split personalities into different facets with different programming, inside the same person.

    http://www.raven1.net/ckln-cst.htm
    A lecture by Dr. Colin Ross entitled "The CIA and Military Mind Control Research: Building the Manchurian Candidate" given April 18, 1996 in Orange County, California. Dr. Ross gives a thorough overview of the documented history of US CIA and military mind control experimentation, particularly creating mind controlled agents using hypnosis and trauma-based dissociation (or multiple personalities). He talks about extensive bizarre experimental projects and the many CIA mind control contracts with top psychiatrists, psychologists and institutions. He discusses Canadian doctor George Estabrooks and his role in developing Manchurian Candidate agents for military, intelligence, and police agencies using hypnosis, drugs, brain implants, and trauma-based dissociation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    We can control this conditioning process, we can free ourselves, or we can enslave others. The illuminati uses abuse and torture to split personalities into different facets with different programming, inside the same person.
    If an organisation such as the Illuminati (if they exist) is producing the conditioning effect then it isn't the individual that is controlling the conditioning process.

    For example, an individual's perception of dogs. The perception is built up by contact with dogs. If the first contact with a dog is negative to the individual, then that person's perception of dogs will be negative. With each contact with dogs, the individual's perception will change.

    But the individual has no real control over the actions of the dogs that alter that perception. Ergo, the individual cannot control the manner in which they are conditioned. There are too many variables, as I said, an individual has no control over the actions of others or general circumstances.

    Humans possess will, but to describe that will as free is a total misnomer.
    Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.

    Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnyOldIron View Post
    I thought you were leaving? Don't you know it's rude to leave an adios thread and then not go? What's the matter, couldn't break the habit cold turkey? Hmmm? ...It's a tough monkey to shake!

    Says a poster who has stomped off on many occasions, only to come sulking back... ha ha ha!
    I said I would be back from time to time. But I guess I should Have said for MR picky ass, that I would not be here as often as my professional and personal work is eating up more of my time.
    I was waiting for some batches to finish in the middle of the night....
    Kiss my wrinkly old butt dixie

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    On the topic of free will. Can a person just pick and choose to be Gay or straight ? Have acrophobia or not ? Be gregarious or shy ?

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    On the topic of free will. Can a person just pick and choose to be Gay or straight ? Have acrophobia or not ? Be gregarious or shy ?

    I'm not sure if gayness is conditioned, I think the latest research suggests it is genetic.

    The others are more likely to be conditioned.
    Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.

    Friedrich Nietzsche

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