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    Default IHS:Isis, Horus, Semiramis

    seen this carved into the pews of your anglican, catholic or other christian church? Is it imprinted on your wafer?

    What does it mean?


    http://www.reformation.org/church-of-rome.html
    The worship of the Egyptian trinity: Isis, Horus and Seth spread to the entire world. Pyramids and obelisks built on the Egyptian model are found everywhere. The ancient Mayans and Aztecs in the New World had pyramids copied from ancient Egypt.

    CIRCE was a Greek goddess who turned men into PIGS!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    seen this carved into the pews of your anglican, catholic or other christian church? Is it imprinted on your wafer?

    What does it mean?
    I've never seen them at any church whatsoever. I do find the site funny as heck. It is much like the ones that say that Muslim is an extension of the Moon God, just from an anti-Christian's perspective.
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    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    I've never seen them at any church whatsoever. I do find the site funny as heck. It is much like the ones that say that Muslim is an extension of the Moon God, just from an anti-Christian's perspective.
    It's actually pro christ. Just anti church.



    Islam is from the mood god. The satanic verses are when mohammed slipped up and started talking about the daughters of god, something from the old religion that he was reworking to make islam. Later he said satan made him do it. Funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    It's actually pro christ. Just anti church.



    Islam is from the mood god. The satanic verses are when mohammed slipped up and started talking about the daughters of god, something from the old religion that he was reworking to make islam. Later he said satan made him do it. Funny.
    Read the site you posted. It relates all parts of Christianity to Pagan beliefs in exactly the same way that the Moon God thing does for Muslim. The site is interesting.

    I especially like the "anybody can see that the Whore of Babylon was" Circe. It makes me laugh. Scholars have worked on Revelations for centuries and this is the first time I've read that one.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
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    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Read the site you posted. It relates all parts of Christianity to Pagan beliefs in exactly the same way that the Moon God thing does for Muslim. The site is interesting.

    I especially like the "anybody can see that the Whore of Babylon was" Circe. It makes me laugh. Scholars have worked on Revelations for centuries and this is the first time I've read that one.
    Christianity, meaning the church, the institution, the dogma. The true message of christ against elitism and a priestly class, was mentioned early on. The egyptian mystery religion and its esoteric teaching "elitism is fine and good", has wormed it's way into all all forms of modern institutional religion, including western governments.

    The true message of jesus was acknowledged early on in the article, "Racism isn't cool". But now zionism is the undeclared yet practiced faith of the entire western world. THe pharisiac brand of judaism which jesus rebelled against was also a reworking of mystery religion elitism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Christianity, meaning the church, the institution, the dogma. The true message of christ against elitism and a priestly class, was mentioned early on. The egyptian mystery religion and its esoteric teaching "elitism if fine and good", has wormed it's way into all all forms of modern institutional religion, including western governments.

    The true message of jesus was acknowledged early on in the article, "Racism isn't cool". But now zionism is the undeclared yet practiced faith of the entire western world. THe pharisiac brand of judaism which jesus rebelled against was also a reworking of mystery religion elitism.
    The thing of it is, they go after Martin Luther who was of the same opinion as you are on the whole "Priestly Class" thing. He believed that the religion was for all. He translated the Bible into German, as he was German, and they say, "He made Moses speak German!" as if it was somehow a bad thing.
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    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

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    1. The great mother goddess was substituted for JEHOVAH—the Son of God
    2. CIRCE or CYBELE was substituted for CHRIST
    3. CHURCH was substituted for CONGREGATION
    4. JUPITER was substituted for St. PETER
    5. PALLADIUS was substituted for St. PATRICK
    6. COLUMBUS was substituted for CABOT
    7. AMERIGO VESPUCCI was substituted for Richard AMERIKE!!
    And what is with the Amerigo Vespucci thing? What does that have to do with the church? The site is very funny and interesting at the same time.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    And what is with the Amerigo Vespucci thing? What does that have to do with the church? The site is very funny and interesting at the same time.
    Yeah. It's good on many levels.

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    Anyway, IHS means "Jesus" in Greek...

    IHS
    abbr.

    Jesus (Greek ΙΗΣΟΥΣ with S for sigma)

    Or in Latin, as many thought to make an explanation that involved more than the one word, Iehus (Jesus) Hominum Salvator = Jesus the Savior of Mankind...

    So. The site basically takes sacrament and abuses the meaning. So, in a Catholic Church one may find IHS, but its meaning is far more benevolent than the described...

    Here is a good site for an understanding of the actual meaning behind the initials..

    http://www.religion-encyclopedia.com/I/ihs.htm
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    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Anyway, IHS means "Jesus" in Greek...

    IHS
    abbr.

    Jesus (Greek ΙΗΣΟΥΣ with S for sigma)

    Or in Latin, as many thought to make an explanation that involved more than the one word, Iehus (Jesus) Hominum Salvator = Jesus the Savior of Mankind...

    So. The site basically takes sacrament and abuses the meaning. So, in a Catholic Church one may find IHS, but its meaning is far more benevolent than the described...

    Here is a good site for an understanding of the actual meaning behind the initials..

    http://www.religion-encyclopedia.com/I/ihs.htm
    Newsflash, the church is lying.

    I post heresy.


    http://www.sign2god.com/folders/oors...enheid-en.html
    These three people -Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz- are globally known and worshipped as the 'trinity' or 'three-in-one-sungod'.

    Later on the Roman Catholic Church would adopt this pagan doctrine and would use these occult gods and their holy days as Christian doctrines, gods and holy days. In this way the Roman Catholic Church adopted paganism in the Christian Churches; still existing in our Christian churches today, known as 'The Holy Trinity'.




    snip...

    unsnip...

    It was Roman Emperor Constantinus that send a platoon of soldiers to fundamental/biblical Christian leaders that didnot want to adopt the trinity. And in this way Constantinus wiped out the Christian resistance and exiled them for a number of years.

    In that same year 325 Constantinus lead the Council of Nicea in which he introduced the basics of the trinity as a christian fundament.

    It was also Constantinus in the same year and Council of Nicea, that erased the biblical Sabbath and changed it into the day of the trinity-sungod (IHS: Isis, Horus and Seth; also known as Baal, Astarte and Tammuz!). Now both the trinity and day of worship were in line with the sungod-worshipping and it still is in most Christian Churches; both Protestant and Catholic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Newsflash, the church is lying.

    I post heresy.
    I don't think they are. I think it is fun to think so and write books about it, but I think they really believe in what they preach on the whole.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
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    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

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    The Text of the Nicene Creed
    We believe in one God,
    the Father, the Almighty,
    maker of heaven and earth,
    of all that is, seen and unseen.

    We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
    the only Son of God,
    eternally begotten of the Father,
    God from God, Light from Light,
    true God from true God,
    begotten, not made,
    of one Being with the Father.
    Through Him all things were made.
    For us and for our salvation
    He came down from heaven:
    by the power of the Holy Spirit
    He became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
    and was made man.
    For our sake He was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
    He suffered death and was buried.
    On the third day He rose again
    in accordance with the Scriptures;
    He ascended into heaven
    and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
    He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
    and His kingdom will have no end.

    We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
    who proceeds from the Father.*
    With the Father and the Son He is worshiped and glorified.
    He has spoken through the Prophets.
    We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
    We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
    We look for the resurrection of the dead,
    and the life of the world to come. AMEN.

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    And? It pretty much tells the story of the Bible....
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    And? It pretty much tells the story of the Bible....

    It represents the triumph of pagan trinitarianism over the other competing forms of christianity.

    You mean the bible as compiled by the Catholic church?

    You're caught in a self referential circle, that is round, refers to itself and is repetitive, over and over again.

    What do easter eggs have to do with Jesus's resurrection?
    http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/tracts/tract1.html
    Semiramis claimed that she was immaculately conceived.

    She taught that the moon was a goddess that went through a 28 day cycle and ovulated when full.

    She further claimed that she came down from the moon in a giant moon egg that fell into the Euphrates River.

    This was to have happened at the time of the first full moon after the spring equinox.

    Semiramis became known as "Ishtar" which is pronounced "Easter", and her moon egg became known as "Ishtar's" egg."


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    Yo, check it. This makes more sense than, "no it's not", or arguments derived from documents also created/compiled/edited by the same roman catholic church.


    http://www.biblicalunitarian.com/mod...article&sid=63
    Pagan Roots of the Trinity Doctrine




    The Trinity doctrine is not unique to, nor original with, Christianity. It has deep Pagan roots, dating back to at least two centuries BC, and has been prominent in many Eastern religions ever since.

    The Roman Catholic and Orthodox Church Councils (Western and Eastern churches) brought the Trinity doctrine into Christianity. This occurred before there was a final split between the two over authority. Even those who voted the idea into Roman Catholic dogma declared it was a mystery that had to be accepted by faith. The theologians that wrote the Catholic Encyclopedia admit that there is no Old Testament indication of a triune God, and very little in the New Testament that can be construed that way. They also admit that it was a product of tradition that evolved over four centuries. The RCC gives equal credence to tradition and scripture. In this case tradition is almost the whole criteria for this dogma, aside from a few scriptures that are wrenched out of context and misinterpreted, trying to give the idea legitimacy.

    The evolution of this doctrine within Christianity began with The Apostle's Creed, progressed to the Nicene Creed, and finally culminated in the Athanasian Creed. Click on the links below to read more about them.

    The Apostle's Creed which was not written by the Apostles at all, but by the RCC. While this simple statement of faith had nothing to say about a Trinity, or even hint that Jesus was God, it laid the groundwork for further expansion, and was modified several times over the years.

    The Nicene Creed established in 325 AD, was the next step. At the insistence of the Roman emperor, Constantine, and for the purpose of establishing unity between Christianity and Pagan beliefs, Jesus was declared to be coequal, coeternal, and consubstantial with God. This established, Constantine made Christianity the state religion of the Roman Empire. Before Constantine's rule the Christians suffered much persecution at the hands of Rome.

    The Athanasian Creed espouses the Trinitarian concepts of Athanasius, a fourth century theologian. The time of its original writing is not known, nor is its author. Most historians agree that it was probably composed in the fifth century, though some claim it may have been as late as the ninth century. Even the Catholic Encyclopedia is vague about its origin.

    The Christian Church's roots were originally from Judaism, which was, and still is, a monotheistic (One-God) religion. There is no belief in a polytheistic (Plural) God in the Old Testament. On the contrary, OT scriptures declare the singleness of God.

    Isa. 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

    Isa. 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

    The Nicene and Athenian creeds are in direct denial of these scriptures as well as many others. First, they had to declare that Jesus was God, and that he was eternal--which also contradicts scripture.

    Num. 23:19 God is not a man that he should lie, neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? Or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

    Jesus was a man; and he referred to himself as the Son of Man many times.

    Psa. 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

    Jesus was begotten, (born) at a point in time, according to the Jewish prophecies. The Athanasian Creed also states that Jesus was God incarnated. This contradicts scripture also, because God does not change.

    Mal. 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

    If there is no scriptural basis for the doctrine of a triune God, then from whence did this idea come?

    Rome, the seat of emperors for the Roman Empire and the power base of political popes, was heavily influenced by the philosophy and paganism of the former Grecian Empire, which took in much more territory than the Roman Empire ever achieved. Greek literature, sociology, religion, and superstitions played a great part in the formation of Roman government, philosophy, and religion. Therefore, it is no wonder that the Romans incorporated much of their custom and culture into Christianity, just as the Jewish believers did in Jerusalem.

    When the Apostle Paul was in Athens he observed, among the worshippers of many pagan gods, an altar to the Unknown God. He took advantage of their superstitions to preach to them of the one true God. Among these people were Epicureans and Stoics philosophers who, were amazed at Paul's preaching of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

    Up until the rule of Emperor Constantine, the Christians of the Roman Empire were persecuted. Constantine, however, in the early fourth century saw a chance to help restore the former glory of the Empire by bringing about religious unity. In exchange for the cooperation of the Roman Christian Bishops he made Christianity the official state religion. However, this came at great cost to the true gospel of Jesus Christ. From this time forward Christianity became a mixture of the Christian faith and Paganism.

    One of the most common beliefs among Pagan cultures was in a trinity of gods. We find this among the Egyptians, Indians (of India), Japanese, Sumarians, Chaldeans, and of course, the Babylonians, to where historians trace the roots of trinitarism.

    Church history shows a gradual assimilation of Pagan ideas into Christianity, brought about mostly by the Roman or Western Church, which became a political/religious extension of the Roman Empire. Foremost among the pagan ideas was the adoption of the trinity doctrine into the dogma of the church. Pagan holidays (holy days) were also incorporated into tradition by “Christianizing” them, thus we end up with Christmas being celebrated on Dec 25th; Easter, which combined the resurrection of Christ with the pagan goddess Ester, and Halloween combined with All Saint's Day.

    In time, the political power of the Roman Popes and the wealth they controlled exceeded that of the Emperors, and the Church became a Monarchy with power over kings and nations. Religious tolerance went out the door, and the Church embarked on crusades and inquisitions to purge out by ex-communication, torture, war, and murder, all those who disagreed with official Church doctrine or resisted the authority of the Pope. Christ-like behavior became a thing of the past, and Jesus' teachings neglected and changed.

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