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    Default the real threat the uprising in egypt poses to the western world

    the loss of use of the suez canal

    whatever new government takes over in egypt, the western world has to hope that it will be friendly to the west like mubarak is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schadenfreude View Post
    the loss of use of the suez canal

    whatever new government takes over in egypt, the western world has to hope that it will be friendly to the west like mubarak is
    Maybe put in place a toll booth.
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    thanks to jimmah cahrter we lost panama....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    thanks to jimmah cahrter we lost panama....
    This learned article from the Harvard Business School may help to understand the complex issues surrounding the Panama Canal. Here is an excerpt.

    In short, the United States no longer had any interest in owning the canal. American end users no longer needed to ensure that Washington kept tolls low, and American taxpayers no longer gained from the canal's profits. Jimmy Carter struck a deal in which the United States would slowly turn the Panama Canal over to Panama, in return for the elimination of almost most aid transfers—with the Neutrality Treaty tacked on to ensure that the United States retained the right to return should canal operations be threatened. President Carter's national security advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, said it best when asked by Congress what would happen if a future Panamanian government shut down the Panama Canal "for repairs." He responded, "In that case, according to the provisions of the Neutrality Treaty, we will move in and close down the Panamanian government for repairs."
    When you add together the lack of strategic value, the decline and disappearance of the economic value of ownership (although the
    existence of the canal remained important), and the guarantee of the Neutrality Treaty, then the Panama Canal treaties start to look like a no-brainer … and that is why Harry Truman first proposed "ditching the Big Ditch," and Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, and Gerald Ford all made serious efforts to negotiate a handover. That said, it took Jimmy Carter's willingness to cut endless deals and risk political suicide to get the Panama Canal treaties through the Senate. The reason was that a large swath of American public opinion opposed the Panama Canal treaties, but their motivation was a defensive American nationalism, not American national defense.


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    it was brought up before, but people should realize that the real threat is that it could happen here too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou View Post
    it was brought up before, but people should realize that the real threat is that it could happen here too.
    What could happen here, too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cancel9 View Post
    What could happen here, too?
    the people could rebel
    You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. —CHARLES A. BEARD
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou View Post
    the people could rebel
    If the west spend more money on supporting moderate Islamic voices and less of Dictators, they wouldn't be in this mess.

    But hey! There is much more profit in supporting dictators(note sarcasm)!

    America must keep their war machine industry employed at all times!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou View Post
    the people could rebel
    What people could rebel?

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    The suez cannal brings a lot of money to egypt why would a new government jeopardize that.

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